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Post Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:00 am

Re: [Profile] Sony Bravia 2010 series

Illico wrote:
kkk222 wrote:Trying to play with maxVBitrate="15360" settings. Will report results.

Yes I think is a good way step...

kkk222 wrote: I have tried using Wild Media server and played the same file without any problems.

Do you have access the the Wild Media logging? could find FFMPEG option used...


OK, so it seems that maxVBitrate does not produce anything. I've changed it but for some reason my mkv quality does not degrade and stuttering persists. Here is my profiles.xml relevant excerpt with bitrate adjustment. What am I doing wrong here?

As for FFMPEG - what specific log portion should I be looking at?

  Code:
<Transcoding>
         <!-- For dvr-ms files force mpeg2video transcoding to fix monotone timestamps problems-->
         <Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetACodec="ac3" forceVTranscoding="true">
            <Matches container="asf" vCodec="mpeg2video" />
         </Video>
         <!--
            First remux all h264 video on MPEG-TS stream with ac3 audio transcoding, expected profile AVC_TS_MP_HD_AC3_ISO or
            AVC_TS_MP_SD_AC3_ISO
         -->
         <Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetACodec="ac3" aBitrate="384">
            <Matches container="avi" vCodec="h264" />
            <Matches container="mp4" vCodec="h264" />
            <Matches container="matroska" vCodec="h264" />
            <!-- if audio different to ac3, must be transcoded -->
            <Matches container="mpegts" aCodec="aac" />
            <Matches container="mpegts" aCodec="mp3" />
            <Matches container="mpegts" aCodec="dca" />
         </Video>
         <!-- All Others video/audio codec will be transcoded into mpeg2ts, mpeg2video and ac3 audio (MPEG_TS_SD_EU). -->
         <Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetVCodec="mpeg2video" maxVBitrate="10000" targetACodec="ac3" aBitrate="384">
            <Matches container="asf" />
            <Matches container="avi" />
            <Matches container="mp4" />
            <Matches container="matroska" />
            <Matches container="flv" />
         </Video>
      </Transcoding>
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Post Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:06 am

Re: [Profile] Sony Bravia 2010 series

kkk222 wrote:OK, so it seems that maxVBitrate does not produce anything. I've changed it but for some reason my mkv quality does not degrade and stuttering persists. Here is my profiles.xml relevant excerpt with bitrate adjustment. What am I doing wrong here?

Could you provide "ffpmeg -i" result of your mkv file?
This is the first <Matches> that will be taking into account by serviio, so probably the <Video> section without maxVBitrate option.
<Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetACodec="ac3" aBitrate="384">
...
<Matches container="matroska" vCodec="h264" />
...
</Video>

This maxVBitrate option has sense only on transcoding (to mpeg2video for ex) not on remuxing.


kkk222 wrote:As for FFMPEG - what specific log portion should I be looking at?

If ffmpeg is used by Wild to remux or transcode your mkv, check the latest ffmpeg command line on logging...
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:47 pm

Re: [Profile] Sony Bravia 2010 series

kkk222 wrote:I have Sony EX710 but more often than not my video stream is stuttering, i.e. got jumps between frames, delayed sound, etc., especially when playing MKV files. I am using a generic Bravia profile. What could cause this problem? I have tried using Wild Media server and played the same file without any problems. I guess it has something to do with Bravia's profile.

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Trying to play with maxVBitrate="15360" settings. Will report results.


Having the exact same problems on my ex710 as well.
1080 = lots of stuttering, 720 = occasional stuttering, xvid plays well 95% of the time.
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:08 pm

Re: [Readme] Sony Bravia 2010 series

After further testing, my maxVbitrate is at 5000 now.

And trying to playback some of my 1080/720p .mkv gives me a "server cannot be accessed temporarily"

However, i'm able to playback other .mkv flawlessly, those that don't give me that error anyway.
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:21 pm

Re: [Readme] Sony Bravia 2010 series

I presume it's the bug with mkv/aac files in 0.5.1 which will be fixed in 0.5.2
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:26 pm

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chang wrote:Having the exact same problems on my ex710 as well.
1080 = lots of stuttering, 720 = occasional stuttering, xvid plays well 95% of the time.

Could you describe your installation (wirecable, wifi, etc)?
Is it audio or video stuttering? Could you try modify Sony Bravia profile by removing the two aBitrate option?

In fact for H264 with AAC there were an issue on 0.5.1 version closed on 0.5.2 beta.
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:54 pm

Re: [Readme] Sony Bravia 2010 series

Crappy wireless router -> ethernet -> pc
and sony ex710 on wifi. Signal is full.

Tried ethernet -> ex710 as well, no improvements.

Audio and video stuttering together, like play for 1s, pause for 1s, repeat.

Happens during "highload" moments, eg subtitles can roll without any problems at all. But when it comes to a "busy" scene, stuttering.


Will try removing the abitrate, sec.
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:04 pm

Re: [Readme] Sony Bravia 2010 series

abitrate removed = no sound on most videos :(
stuttering still persists.

on a side note, with abitrate removed and maxvbitrate=4000 my videos seem.. sped up. like 1.05x
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:22 pm

Re: [Readme] Sony Bravia 2010 series

For me, it's a network issue or CPU load. vBitrate to 5000 is very low...for me stuttering appears at 17Mbps or 20Mbps on h264 video.

Could you disable the "Library Automatically update" on Serviio icon ?
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:24 pm

Re: [Readme] Sony Bravia 2010 series

Could you provide:
- ffmpeg -i result of your file
- MediaInfo result of your file
- BitrateViewer result of your file (average and peak)
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:47 pm

Re: [Readme] Sony Bravia 2010 series

Illico wrote:For me, it's a network issue or CPU load. vBitrate to 5000 is very low...for me stuttering appears at 17Mbps or 20Mbps on h264 video.

Could you disable the "Library Automatically update" on Serviio icon ?


Hmm network's the usual G. Cpu in use is e8400 3.6ghz.

Gimme a sec on those results.
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:01 pm

Re: [Readme] Sony Bravia 2010 series

Illico wrote:Could you provide:
- ffmpeg -i result of your file
- MediaInfo result of your file
- BitrateViewer result of your file (average and peak)


Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]

C:\Program Files (x86)\Serviio\lib>ffmpeg.exe -i d:\black.swan.2010.bluray.720p.
dts.x264-chd
FFmpeg version UNKNOWN, Copyright (c) 2000-2011 the FFmpeg developers
built on Jan 10 2011 21:46:22 with gcc 4.4.2
configuration: --enable-static --disable-shared --disable-shared --disable-ffp
lay --disable-ffserver --enable-memalign-hack --enable-libmp3lame --arch=x86 --e
nable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-w32threads --target-os=mingw32 --cross-prefix=i
686-mingw32-
libavutil 50.36. 0 / 50.36. 0
libavcore 0.16. 0 / 0.16. 0
libavcodec 52.108. 0 / 52.108. 0
libavformat 52.92. 0 / 52.92. 0
libavdevice 52. 2. 3 / 52. 2. 3
libavfilter 1.72. 0 / 1.72. 0
libswscale 0.12. 0 / 0.12. 0
d:\black.swan.2010.bluray.720p.dts.x264-chd: Permission denied


BitrateViewer : 7150/18472
Another video - 11930/21290 - Totally unplayable, stuttering every second even with maxvbitrate=5000
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:41 pm

Re: [Readme] Sony Bravia 2010 series

chang wrote:...C:\Program Files (x86)\Serviio\lib>ffmpeg.exe -i d:\black.swan.2010.bluray.720p.dts.x264-chd
...d:\black.swan.2010.bluray.720p.dts.x264-chd: Permission denied

LoL, no information due to permission denied, please find a solution to provide result.

For your information, you have to know that on MKV/H264/DTS media, H264 video will be remuxed (no transcode) and maxVBitrate have no sens.
To have maxVBitrate valid, you have to force MPEG2VIDEO trancoding with forceVTranscoding option

BitrateViewer : 7150/18472
Another video - 11930/21290 - Totally unplayable, stuttering every second even with maxvbitrate=5000


First 18472bps at this bitrate peek, you probably have stuttering, but 7150 average should be OK.
On your another video, the video bitrate is too high for Sony Bravia TV (21290bps), you need to force transcode to MPEG2VIDEO with forceVTranscoding and maxVBitrate option.

I know its difficult, but Sony Bravia have limitation.
So unless Zip have an conception idea, for this file the only solution I see, is to force mpeg2video transcoding.
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Post Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:59 am

Re: [Readme] Sony Bravia 2010 series

Yup, tried forceVtranscoding along with maxVbitrate, got "temporarily can't access the server" for some videos.

Hmm, any idea whats the maxVbitrate of the ex710 series?

I'm not at home now, will re-up the ffmpeg -i in two days.
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Post Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:10 am

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chang wrote:Hmm, any idea whats the maxVbitrate of the ex710 series?

Same that EX500, I would say between 17Mbps and 20Mbps, DLNA specify 20Mbps for AVC_HD profile.
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Post Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:26 pm

Re: [Readme] Sony Bravia 2010 series

Hi!
I have a SONY KDL40W5500 LCD TV and are unable to view movies with subtitles in Romanian. SERVIIO is installed, the latest version and still do not see subtitles. Can someone help me?
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Post Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:35 pm

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Post Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:30 pm

Re: [Readme] Sony Bravia 2010 series

__________________________________________UPDATE___________________________________________

The Sony Bravia profile is updated with some new configurations, see the first post of this topic:

- The best AC3 audio bitrate for MPEG2TS with H264/AVC is still be 384kbps
- The best AC3 audio bitrate for MPEG2TS with MPEG2VIDEO must be 192kbps
- Add maxVBitrate="17000" when MPEG2VIDEO transcoding is used
- Add MPEGPS with DTS audio in matches
- Add wtv in matches
- Modify : FLAC must be transcode to MP3 to allow pause then resume function without errors.
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Post Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:53 am

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I guess this message is aimed at Illico on subtitle support for 40EX500. Few days ago I copied an episode of Castle to USB flash together with subtitle in srt format with the same file name. Suddenly, on screen started movie with the subtitle. I checked options menu and there is a subtitle option even offering type of encoding (CP1250). I tried to repeate this with other episodes of Castle but it did not work. Only Castle S03E13. I am using this TV for 11 months and this was the first time that this menu option show up. Also, when I am watching movies over network, I have option to adjust screen position. That was also not possible recently. It looks that firmware is recently changed and that I was not aware of it. I also can send you screenshots with subtitle. Font is realy ugly but it works.
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Post Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:58 am

Re: [Readme] Sony Bravia 2010 series

princo wrote:...Few days ago I copied an episode of Castle to USB flash together with subtitle in srt format with the same file name. Suddenly, on screen started movie with the subtitle.

I mostly use my TV over DLNA, not USB. I have not paid attention to the subtitles over USB. I will check that on my EX501.
princo wrote:...using this TV for 11 months and this was the first time that this menu option show up. Also, when I am watching movies over network, I have option to adjust screen position. That was also not possible recently.

Sony added some new IPTV features, but they didn't talk about subtitles or screen position feature, I will check that too on my EX501.

princo wrote:It looks that firmware is recently changed and that I was not aware of it. I also can send you screenshots with subtitle. Font is realy ugly but it works.

What is your firmware version: PKG4.092EUL-0108 ?
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