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Post Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:43 am

Re: Philips 55POS9002 (with synology DS218+)

Hello again,

So, seems issues are continue. When i tryed video in shop was all okey. Same thing at home as well when i powered up tv. The point is when to start tv then first movie i play in 4K works fine. The second and the rest ones will not run anymore smoothly until next tv restar. :roll:
From one movie i removed Dolby TrueHD and tryed. No changes. The same movie after restart works fine. Seems its somehow tv issue itself. I spent some time to google but didn't found much. There one German forum what i read with google translate.
I very hope that someone can take a time and take a look on that forum. http://www.hifi-forum.de/viewthread-328-11.html There are issues and technical data written.
As much i understand it can be a issue about bitrate but i cant understand if its a bitrate issue then why it works in the beginning as first played video. :roll:
If i could be able to reduce bitrate in serviio for testing somehow. Maybe then problem will be solved.
Overall try to avoid buy a philips tv for dlna. Picture is very good but you will be not able normally look 4k videos :evil: At least with this current tv model.
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Post Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:25 pm

Re: Philips 55POS9002 (with synology DS218+)

atc98092 wrote: You may need to transcode them all with a bitrate limit added to the profile.


atc98092... How to add that bitrate limit to the profile?
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Post Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:17 pm

Re: Philips 55POS9002 (with synology DS218+)

When I get home this evening I'll try to provide more detail. In the meantime, you could look over the transcoding support page (http://www.serviio.org/index.php?option ... icle&id=24) and see the options available. What you're looking for is the maxVBitrate setting. There are quite a few existing profiles that use this setting, so you can see how it's used. I believe I use it on the Roku TV (non-4K) profile, and I know Chaneru uses it as well. There are likely others.
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Post Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:10 pm

Re: Philips 55POS9002 (with synology DS218+)

atc98092 wrote:When I get home this evening I'll try to provide more detail. In the meantime, you could look over the transcoding support page (http://www.serviio.org/index.php?option ... icle&id=24) and see the options available. What you're looking for is the maxVBitrate setting. There are quite a few existing profiles that use this setting, so you can see how it's used. I believe I use it on the Roku TV (non-4K) profile, and I know Chaneru uses it as well. There are likely others.


Hi, yes i looked on profile file. If honestly cant understand much it. I tryed to play with roku 4k profile. It play but in some time like buffering and sound is cutting about every 2 sec.

In my earlyer post i writted one forum link. From that forum i found this information. Maybe its useful in my case.
Playback formats
• Video codecs: AVI, MKV, H264 / MPEG-4 AVC,
MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, WMV9 / VC1, HEVC
• Audio Codecs : AAC, MP3, WAV, WMA (v2 to v9 .2)
WMA-PRO (v9 and v10)
• Subtitles:
- Formats: SRT, SUB, TXT, SMI
- Character sets: UTF-8, Central Europe and Eastern Europe
(Windows-1250), Cyrillic (Windows-1251),
Greek (Windows -1253), Turkish (Windows-1254),
Western Europe (Windows-1252)
• Image codecs: JPEG
• Limitations:
- The maximum supported total bit rate for a
media file is 30 Mbps.
- The maximum supported video bitrate for a
media file is 20 Mbps.

- MPEG-4 AVC (H.264) will be up to High Profile @ L5.1
supported.
- H.265 (HEVC) is supported until Main / Main 10 profiles at
level 5.1.
- VC-1 is supported until Advanced Profile @ L3.
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Post Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:08 am

Re: Philips 55POS9002 (with synology DS218+)

Here's an example of a transcoding section that limits bitrate. I'll walk you through each section:
  Code:
<Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetVCodec="h264" maxVBitrate="20000" forceVTranscoding="true" targetACodec="ac3" aBitrate="512">
            <Matches container="*" vCodec="vc1" />
            <Matches container="*" vCodec="h265"/>
            <Matches container="*" vCodec="h264" profile="high" levelGreaterThan="4.1" />
</Video>


The first line is telling Serviio the codecs and container to use for the transcoded file. It also contains any restrictions you want applied to the transcoded file. In this case, we are using an MPEG-TS container, the video codec will be H.264, and the audio codec will be Dolby Digital with an audio bitrate of 512 kbps. Notice the MaxVBitrate tag. This limits the video bitrate to 20 Mbps (20,000 Kbps) and it also has a tag that forces the video to be transcoded. Notice the information on your TV says video bitrate shouldn't exceed 20 Mbps and total bitrate (video, audio and any captions) shouldn't exceed 30 Mbps. But you don't need to worry about limiting the audio bitstream. Even lossy DTS is only about 1.5 Mbps, so plenty of headroom there.

The matches lines are to identify files to be transcoded by their normal codecs. The first line matches any container but only the VC-1 video codec. The second line captures all H.265 content, and the third captures H.264 that is most likely 4K.

It took me a while to get the hang of transcoding parameters, and I still run across something I don't understand or hadn't seen before. That's when DenyAll or Zip gently corrects my mistakes. :lol:
Dan

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Post Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:31 am

Re: Philips 55POS9002 (with synology DS218+)

Can you make a whole profile?
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Post Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:16 pm

Re: Philips 55POS9002 (with synology DS218+)

It's kind of difficult to create a profile for a device I don't have. What profile has worked best for you, and with that profile what still has issues? Once we know what is working best, then we can attempt to tweak it to catch what still isn't working.

So, experiment with as many of the TV profiles as you can, find the one that plays the largest number of files, keep track of what doesn't play, then provide the media info on the files that don't play so we can develop some new matches statements for you.
Dan

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HOWTO: Enable debug logging HOWTO: Identify media file contents
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Post Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:17 pm

Re: Philips 55POS9002 (with synology DS218+)

Okey, ill take a time and try to find best match from a profiles. Then ill come back here.

Btw... I tryed to play media files with PS4 from nas. These 4K movies didn't worked. Might be because its not a PS4 pro (PS4 pro is a 4K). Just was interesting to see what will happent then with these huge files. But let it bee... Lets keep focus on current Philips profile.
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