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AMMTUK

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Post Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:34 pm

Serviio and Apple Music (iTunes) streaming

Hi, I have been looking around to see if this has been asked before because I find it hard to believe that I would be the first, but I am using Serviio Server on my Windows 10 PC and it communicates well with my Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C (2015) smart TV via my 5GHz VirginMedia Wi-Fi home network.
I have an active Apple Music subscription but I haven't yet managed to listen to any streamed music in "My Music" (in iTunes) via the Sony TV (and connected Bose Theatre Sound System) and can only play albums or tracks which have been physically downloaded to my PC. Would anyone expect me to be able to listen to any streamed music in "My Music" which is not downloaded (which is the vast majority)?
I am just curious as to the possible limitations of what music I should expect to be able to listen to via this method. I can actually play anything from "My Music" account via the Bose system when that is connected directly to my iPhone so what I am asking for is not critical but I would love to know if I am missing a detail here. Hope you can understand what I mean. Many thanks. Alan.
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Post Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:46 pm

Re: Serviio and Apple Music (iTunes) streaming

I'm not familiar with Apple music, but I'll throw an idea out. Most streaming services require some sort of login authentication, and Serviio does not have that functionality. It might be possible to for plug-in to be configured to connect, but then you have the potential issue of DRM. It's possible (again, I have no experience with it) that Apple Music requires a connection via an Apple product (iTunes, phone, pad or TV), and non-Apple products may not be permitted to stream.
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Post Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:19 am

Re: Serviio and Apple Music (iTunes) streaming

The more as I know is to use [removed] to convert iTunes music from M4P to MP3 format. As we know all iTunes audios are encrypted with fairplay DRM protection, it can be played on Apple devices only. If you want to want to play all these audio on any devices freely, you may have to get rip of DRM protection at first. This [removed] is for all iTunes users to convert audio at faster speed with zero loss quality at 30x faster speed with zero loss quality.
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Post Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:21 pm

Re: Serviio and Apple Music (iTunes) streaming

Torence wrote:The more as I know is to use (removed) to convert iTunes music from M4P to MP3 format. As we know all iTunes audios are encrypted with fairplay DRM protection, it can be played on Apple devices only. If you want to want to play all these audio on any devices freely, you may have to get rip of DRM protection at first. This DRM removal tool[/url is for all iTunes users to convert audio at faster speed with zero loss quality at 30x faster speed with zero loss quality.



Torence, iTunes music is NOT DRM protected. They removed that a number of years ago. Yes, video still contains DRM, but not audio. I can play music from iTunes on any device.
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Post Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:45 am

Re: Serviio and Apple Music (iTunes) streaming

As far as I know, Apple Music is encrypted with DRM and it limits you to stream on Sony TV. The best way to solve this problem is using a DRM removal to (URL removed by admin) and the removal should be able to convert to Apple Music to MP3 so that you can stream on any devices.
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Post Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:48 am

Re: Serviio and Apple Music (iTunes) streaming

ariesjones wrote:As far as I know, Apple Music is encrypted with DRM and it limits you to stream on Sony TV. The best way to solve this problem is using a DRM removal to (removed) and the removal should be able to convert to Apple Music to MP3 so that you can stream on any devices.


No, Apple removed all DRM from their music almost 10 years ago. You can play them on any device. Converting it is not necessary.
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Post Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:43 am

Re: Serviio and Apple Music (iTunes) streaming

(URL removed by admin) is the best 2018 Apple Music DRM removal tool, help to remove DRM from Apple Music (iTunes music) easily, convert Apple Music to DRM-free format files with its original quality. After the conversion, you can playback the converted music without paying, with its original audio quality on any mobile devices without limits, such as, Android device, iPhone, iPod, PSP, Zune, MP3 player, mobile phones, Xbox one, computer, etc,. Super fast conversion speed and excellent output quality.

ADMIN COMMENT: for the last time, there is no DRM in iTunes music. Video, yes. But none in the music. No conversion necessary.
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Post Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:53 pm

Re: Serviio and Apple Music (iTunes) streaming

Incorrect, apple music uses drm absolutely, I am listening to it right now and will upload the song I am listening too.

Try to play it, you can't because they use drm.

The file format is m4p. From google:

https://file.org/extension/m4p

I don't know where you get the idea that there is no drm for 10 years that is patently false!

Edit: It says extension m4p is not allowed when I attach.

Here is the ffmpeg -i:

  Code:
C:\Users\Office\Desktop>ffmpeg -i "C:\Users\Office\Desktop\0000000009709E9C-0000
00001ADC3B72.m4p" > drm.txt
ffmpeg version N-90820-gd06b01fc2d Copyright (c) 2000-2018 the FFmpeg developers

  built with gcc 7.3.0 (GCC)
  configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --enable-sdl2 --enable-bzlib --e
nable-fontconfig --enable-gnutls --enable-iconv --enable-libass --enable-libblur
ay --enable-libfreetype --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-
libopencore-amrwb --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libopus --enable-libshine --enab
le-libsnappy --enable-libsoxr --enable-libtheora --enable-libtwolame --enable-li
bvpx --enable-libwavpack --enable-libwebp --enable-libx264 --enable-libx265 --en
able-libxml2 --enable-libzimg --enable-lzma --enable-zlib --enable-gmp --enable-
libvidstab --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-libmysofa --enabl
e-libspeex --enable-libxvid --enable-libaom --enable-libmfx --enable-amf --enabl
e-ffnvcodec --enable-cuvid --enable-d3d11va --enable-nvenc --enable-nvdec --enab
le-dxva2 --enable-avisynth
  libavutil      56. 15.100 / 56. 15.100
  libavcodec     58. 19.100 / 58. 19.100
  libavformat    58. 13.100 / 58. 13.100
  libavdevice    58.  4.100 / 58.  4.100
  libavfilter     7. 19.100 /  7. 19.100
  libswscale      5.  2.100 /  5.  2.100
  libswresample   3.  2.100 /  3.  2.100
  libpostproc    55.  2.100 / 55.  2.100
[mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2 @ 00f55600] ignoring 'frma' atom of 'mp4a', stream form
at is 'drms'
[mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2 @ 00f55600] stream 0, timescale not set
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'C:\Users\Office\Desktop\0000000009709E9
C-000000001ADC3B72.m4p':
  Metadata:
    major_brand     : M4A
    minor_version   : 0
    compatible_brands: M4A mp42isom
    creation_time   : 2028-01-26T21:38:18.000000Z
    iTunSMPB        :  00000000 00000840 00000324 00000000009D989C 00000000 0000
0000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
    iTunNORM        :  00002236 000020D1 0000AAC8 0000B00C 0000E265 0000E265 000
08000 00008000 00000E83 00000E83
    date            : 2009-06-02T07:00:00Z
    account_id      : private
    copyright       : Γäù 2009 Duck Down Music Inc.
    rating          : 1
    media_type      : 1
  Duration: 00:03:54.27, start: 0.047889, bitrate: 282 kb/s
    Stream #0:0(eng): Audio: aac (LC) (drms / 0x736D7264), 44100 Hz, stereo, flt
p, 261 kb/s (default)
    Metadata:
      creation_time   : 2028-01-26T21:38:18.000000Z
    Stream #0:1: Video: mjpeg, yuvj444p(pc, bt470bg/unknown/unknown), 1400x1400
[SAR 300:300 DAR 1:1], 90k tbr, 90k tbn, 90k tbc
At least one output file must be specified


stream form
at is 'drms'
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Post Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:41 pm

Re: Serviio and Apple Music (iTunes) streaming

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4788743
"All songs offered by the iTunes Store now come without DRM protection. These DRM-free songs, called iTunes Plus, have no usage restrictions and feature high-quality 256 kbps AAC encoding.

If you have older iTunes Store purchases that are now available as iTunes Plus downloads, you may upgrade your existing purchases. To do so, visit the iTunes Store and follow the onscreen instructions."


I have over 100 tracks of iTunes music, and they will all play on any device without DRM issues. I'm not certain, but I believe that they did a mass update that removed the DRM from people's iTunes libraries. No idea what Apple did, but I took no action personally to remove the DRM. It was just gone.

I looked through my library and did discover four titles with M4P extensions. And yes, you are correct that they won't play. The remainder of my library is all M4A, MP4 or MP3, and they all play fine. So it does look like I have a few left from before the DRM was removed. But as Apple states in the quote above, all music is available free of DRM.

Here's an article from 2009 that shows how long ago it was removed: https://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/tech ... apple.html
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Post Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:20 pm

Re: Serviio and Apple Music (iTunes) streaming

Thats great for you but op and myself are using apple music subscription service.

You log in and the itunes app caches m4p's as they stream and they are all heavily drm'd.

Would be great to hook serviio into it somehow to expand the service to more devices but probably impossible.

The thread has my grinding my teeth though because I see what you are saying, downloaded mp3's are not drm'd, but streaming m4p certainly are, and I feel OP on that because it's lame if you're paying for music you should be able to listen outside of itunes.

But someone needs to tell apple that. They call it fairplay drm lol doesn't sound very fair to me.
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Post Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:08 pm

Re: Serviio and Apple Music (iTunes) streaming

freaknik wrote:
But someone needs to tell apple that. They call it fairplay drm lol doesn't sound very fair to me.


Completely agree, but Apple has never been known for being fair. :lol:
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