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Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:44 pmby individual
Can anyone help me modify PS3 profile to play MKV files with DTS audio without transcoding to AC3? I'm not sure how to do it...
Thanks in advance.
Re: Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:17 pmby Cerberus
its not possible it HAS to be transcoded if it didnt we would not bother transcoding it in first place we would just stream it natively
Re: Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:32 pmby zip
Does the PS3 have the option to passthru the DTS stream to AV receiver for decoding?
Re: Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:11 amby individual
Yes, PS3 has the option to output DTS 5.1, DTS High Resolution Audio, DTS Master Audio among other output formats, including LPCM modes and Dolby Digital modes, all over the HDMI connector. This connector is used especially when connected to dedicated AV Receivers.
Re: Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:26 amby patters
Though it ought to work, the problem here is that FFmpeg cannot yet correctly remux dts audio. The PS3 needs mkv files to be remuxed to mpegts. You could try manually remuxing the file with TSMuxer, though you may need to edit the device profile to prevent the audio being transcoded to ac3 when Serviio sends it. However it may be that the PS3 doesn't accept dts audio over DLNA. I don't have a PS3 so you'll have to test this!
Re: Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:56 amby Cerberus
zip wrote:Does the PS3 have the option to passthru the DTS stream to AV receiver for decoding?
nope not over DLNA
Re: Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:24 pmby Paulicat
Passing DTS over DNLA is most definitely allowed by the PS3.
I have plenty of movies with DTS soundtracks and have used PS3MediaServer to passthrough the DTS to my onkyo av receiver.
One key bit of info is that your ps3's audio settings must be set as follows:
"Left + Right" in speaker xmb icon and volume xmb must be set to "Normal".
If either of these 2 are not set as above, you will get ugly noise.
Re: Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:30 pmby Cerberus
Paulicat wrote:Passing DTS over DNLA is most definitely allowed by the PS3.
I have plenty of movies with DTS soundtracks and have used PS3MediaServer to passthrough the DTS to my onkyo av receiver.
One key bit of info is that your ps3's audio settings must be set as follows:
"Left + Right" in speaker xmb icon and volume xmb must be set to "Normal".
If either of these 2 are not set as above, you will get ugly noise.
PS3ms must have a work around to get this to work not sure how but ZIP maybe able to answer that.
Re: Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:13 pmby zip
MKV gets wrappend into mpegts with ac3, because (based on what petters said) DTS wrapping is not supported by FFmpeg. It's possible that TsMuxer is used to do that in PS3MS.
Re: Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:15 pmby patters
It is. So for now you'll need to manually use TSMuxer to remux dts files to mpegts and re-add to your Serviio library. Hopefully they will fix FFmpeg at some point...
Re: Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:54 amby moon1234
You can also exclude mkv from being remuxed into MPEG-TS. Just send change type to DIVX or MKV if the PS3 supports it. That is what you do for the Sony BDP-xxx bluray series.
remuxing to mepg-ts seems to eliminate many of the streaming problems. Give a try sending MKV directly. If it works fine then you don't need to worry about FFMPEG and it's lagging support for DTS.
ZIP:
Any thoughts on supporting TsMuxer or possibly making it configurable in the profile?
Re: Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Mon May 02, 2011 9:39 pmby zip
moon1234 wrote:ZIP:
Any thoughts on supporting TsMuxer or possibly making it configurable in the profile?
I'm not really too enthusiastic about that. I'd very much prefer to distribute only 1 transcoder and hope FFmpeg implements it soon.
Re: Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:31 amby powerfuljackson
i know a step by step guide on how to play MKV, HD MKV files on PS3/Xbox 360/iPad/iPhone/Android/QuickTime/Zune/PowerPoint/BlackBerry/Nokia and more.
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http://www.bigasoft.com/articles/how-to-play-mkv-files.htmlhope it helps more or less
Re: Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:26 amby individual
it doesn't help at all.
I wonder how is not clear that if you change an mkv file into an mp4 then it is the mp4 file that will play on these consoles and not the mkv.
and is not that we didn't know that any file can be converted from/into another format to play on whatever device; it's about serving the same file type onto different devices - that's what a server/transcoder do.
so, no, it doesn't help with anything.
Re: Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:38 amby Illico
As I understand:
PS3 does not support MKV with DTS in native format, so must be remuxed into MPEGTS and use the pass through option of PS3 (DTS will be decode by Home Cinema...)
Today,
There were only two solutions:
- Wait for ffmpeg update that allow remuxing mkv/dts into mpegts/dts on the fly without issues.
- Manually remux the mkv/dts into mpegts/dts with TsMuxer tool and play natively with serviio.
Re: Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:42 amby individual
ps3 does not support MKV extension. period.
Re: Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:10 amby kiki8
nice info, thanx)
Re: Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:34 pmby Encrypted
zip wrote:moon1234 wrote:ZIP:
Any thoughts on supporting TsMuxer or possibly making it configurable in the profile?
I'm not really too enthusiastic about that. I'd very much prefer to distribute only 1 transcoder and hope FFmpeg implements it soon.
Thats too bad. Serviio is such a great app, one of its only draw backs is that it doesnt support DTS. This forces a heavy handed forced trancode on almost every HD BD rip out there. This degrades quality and pins most CPU's at a high rate for the entire video.
PS3MS uses the TSmuxer to remux supported audio formats on the fly. This is a great system because almost ALL video formats are natively supported by the PS3 now. What this means is that 99% of all downloaded content does not need to be transcoded at all. Steaming natively gives almost perfect playback almost every time.
It would be worth reconsidering. It would turn Serviio from being a really good app to a great one. Even the Best one.
My 2 Cents...
Re: Playing MKV's DTS audio in PS3 without transcoding
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:52 pmby Cerberus
Encrypted wrote:zip wrote:moon1234 wrote:ZIP:
Any thoughts on supporting TsMuxer or possibly making it configurable in the profile?
I'm not really too enthusiastic about that. I'd very much prefer to distribute only 1 transcoder and hope FFmpeg implements it soon.
Thats too bad. Serviio is such a great app, one of its only draw backs is that it doesnt support DTS. This forces a heavy handed forced trancode on almost every HD BD rip out there. This degrades quality and pins most CPU's at a high rate for the entire video.
PS3MS uses the TSmuxer to remux supported audio formats on the fly. This is a great system because almost ALL video formats are natively supported by the PS3 now. What this means is that 99% of all downloaded content does not need to be transcoded at all. Steaming natively gives almost perfect playback almost every time.
It would be worth reconsidering. It would turn Serviio from being a really good app to a great one. Even the Best one.
My 2 Cents...
its already the BEST one