Transcoding bug on samsung c profile?

Mon May 23, 2011 5:37 pm by becool

Hi there,

Where to start ...

Trying since 3 days to find where is the problem with 2 .*mkv files.
First one doesn't load when i load Samsung TV / player / C-D series profile but load perfectly when i select Samsung TV ( B-series )
My TV is a samsung UE 46 C 6000 RW ( guess it is a series "c " )

Forgot to mention I use version 0.5.2 on Win 7 64

Here is the media info about the first file

Code:: Général Identifiant unique : 221695078086764997686044684723341883652 (0xA6C8EB3FB89992CDAD47B98364C5F904) Nom complet : D:\abcd\Hua.Mulan.2009.FRENCH.720p.BluRay.x264-FHD.mkv Format : Matroska Taille du fichier : 4,35 Gio Durée : 1h 49mn Débit global moyen : 5 678 Kbps Date d'encodage : UTC 2011-05-18 21:56:58 Application utilisée : mkvmerge v4.6.0 ('Still Crazy After All These Years') built on Mar 10 2011 02:50:32 Bibliothèque utilisée : libebml v1.2.0 + libmatroska v1.1.0 Vidéo ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Profil du format : High@L4.1 Paramètres du format, CABAC : Oui Paramètres du format, RefFrames : 5 images Paramètres du format, GOP : M=4, N=50 Type de muxing : Header stripping Identifiant du codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Durée : 1h 49mn Débit : 4 191 Kbps Largeur : 1 280 pixels Hauteur : 544 pixels Format à l'écran : 2,35:1 Images par seconde : 25,000 Im/s Espace de couleurs : YUV Sous-échantillonnage de la chrom : 4:2:0 Profondeur des couleurs : 8 bits Type d'image : Progressif Bits/(Pixel*Image) : 0.241 Taille du flux : 3,11 Gio (71%) Bibliothèque utilisée : x264 core 115 r1995 c1e60b9 Paramètres d'encodage : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=4191 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 Langue : Anglais Audio ID : 2 Format : DTS Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems Type de muxing : Header stripping Identifiant du codec : A_DTS Durée : 1h 49mn Type de débit : Constant Débit : 1 510 Kbps Canaux : 6 canaux Position des cannaux : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Echantillonnage : 48,0 KHz Profondeur des couleurs : 24 bits Mode de compression : Avec perte Taille du flux : 1,16 Gio (27%) Langue : Français Texte ID : 3 Format : UTF-8 Identifiant du codec : S_TEXT/UTF8 Identifiant du codec/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text Titre : Forced Langue : Français

And here is the ffmpeg info

Code:: D:\ffmpeg -i hua.mula.mkv FFmpeg version UNKNOWN, Copyright (c) 2000-2011 the FFmpeg developers built on Jan 10 2011 21:46:22 with gcc 4.4.2 configuration: --enable-static --disable-shared --disable-shared --disable-ffp lay --disable-ffserver --enable-memalign-hack --enable-libmp3lame --arch=x86 --e nable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-w32threads --target-os=mingw32 --cross-prefix=i 686-mingw32- libavutil 50.36. 0 / 50.36. 0 libavcore 0.16. 0 / 0.16. 0 libavcodec 52.108. 0 / 52.108. 0 libavformat 52.92. 0 / 52.92. 0 libavdevice 52. 2. 3 / 52. 2. 3 libavfilter 1.72. 0 / 1.72. 0 libswscale 0.12. 0 / 0.12. 0 hua.mula.mkv: No such file or directory

So this first file doesn't load with samsung C profile

Here is the second one, this one no matter witch profile I load, it doesn't start at all.

Code:: Général Identifiant unique : 223692677613438036459024720087611754913 (0xA849A48274869DA5A174599695B649A1) Nom complet : D:\second file.mkv Format : Matroska Taille du fichier : 7,01 Gio Durée : 2h 18mn Débit global moyen : 7 254 Kbps Date d'encodage : UTC 2011-04-13 15:14:43 Application utilisée : mkvmerge v4.3.0 ('Escape from the Island') built on Sep 5 2010 10:30:51 Bibliothèque utilisée : libebml v1.0.0 + libmatroska v1.0.0 Vidéo ID : 3 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Profil du format : High@L3.1 Paramètres du format, CABAC : Oui Paramètres du format, RefFrames : 4 images Paramètres du format, GOP : M=4, N=54 Type de muxing : Header stripping Identifiant du codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Durée : 2h 18mn Débit : 6 000 Kbps Largeur : 1 280 pixels Hauteur : 720 pixels Format à l'écran : 16/9 Images par seconde : 23,976 Im/s Espace de couleurs : YUV Sous-échantillonnage de la chrom : 4:2:0 Profondeur des couleurs : 8 bits Type d'image : Progressif Bits/(Pixel*Image) : 0.272 Taille du flux : 5,63 Gio (80%) Bibliothèque utilisée : x264 core 104 r1713 c276662 Paramètres d'encodage : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=4 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=6000 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 Audio #1 ID : 4 Format : AC-3 Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 Extension du mode : CM (complete main) Type de muxing : Header stripping Identifiant du codec : A_AC3 Durée : 2h 18mn Type de débit : Constant Débit : 640 Kbps Canaux : 6 canaux Position des cannaux : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Echantillonnage : 48,0 KHz Profondeur des couleurs : 16 bits Mode de compression : Avec perte Taille du flux : 633 Mio (9%) Langue : Français Audio #2 ID : 5 Format : AC-3 Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 Extension du mode : CM (complete main) Type de muxing : Header stripping Identifiant du codec : A_AC3 Durée : 2h 18mn Type de débit : Constant Débit : 640 Kbps Canaux : 6 canaux Position des cannaux : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Echantillonnage : 48,0 KHz Profondeur des couleurs : 16 bits Mode de compression : Avec perte Taille du flux : 633 Mio (9%) Langue : Anglais Texte #1 ID : 1 Format : UTF-8 Identifiant du codec : S_TEXT/UTF8 Identifiant du codec/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text Texte #2 ID : 2 Format : UTF-8 Identifiant du codec : S_TEXT/UTF8 Identifiant du codec/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text Menu 00:00:00.000 : :00:00:00.000 00:03:50.230 : :00:03:50.230 00:08:55.368 : :00:08:55.368 00:12:16.903 : :00:12:16.903 00:16:24.317 : :00:16:24.317 00:19:43.182 : :00:19:43.182 00:23:29.408 : :00:23:29.408 00:27:26.812 : :00:27:26.812 00:32:01.253 : :00:32:01.253 00:33:43.188 : :00:33:43.188 00:37:57.442 : :00:37:57.442 00:40:55.620 : :00:40:55.620 00:43:44.956 : :00:43:44.956 00:50:42.706 : :00:50:42.706 00:55:08.472 : :00:55:08.472 01:00:03.099 : :01:00:03.099 01:02:49.766 : :01:02:49.766 01:08:52.295 : :01:08:52.295 01:13:06.882 : :01:13:06.882 01:16:21.410 : :01:16:21.410 01:20:31.827 : :01:20:31.827 01:22:47.129 : :01:22:47.129 01:26:12.501 : :01:26:12.501 01:29:52.887 : :01:29:52.887 01:32:50.899 : :01:32:50.899 01:37:10.825 : :01:37:10.825 01:40:51.379 : :01:40:51.379 01:44:57.791 : :01:44:57.791 01:48:12.152 : :01:48:12.152 01:52:25.572 : :01:52:25.572 01:55:42.936 : :01:55:42.936 01:57:37.550 : :01:57:37.550 02:01:51.471 : :02:01:51.471 02:04:18.451 : :02:04:18.451 02:07:04.116 : :02:07:04.116 02:16:29.681 : :02:16:29.681

Some ffmpeg infos

Code:: Microsoft Windows [version 6.1.7600] Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. Tous droits réservés. Le volume dans le lecteur D s'appelle Data Le numéro de série du volume est 6C7D-8583 Répertoire de D:\test 23/05/2011 18:57 <REP> . 23/05/2011 18:57 <REP> .. 27/03/2011 19:43 7.040.000 ffmpeg.exe 23/05/2011 18:57 16.689 matrix 2.nfo 23/05/2011 18:02 7.521.826.713 second file.mkv 3 fichier(s) 7.528.883.402 octets 2 Rép(s) 47.035.285.504 octets libres D:\test>ffmpeg -i second file.mkv FFmpeg version UNKNOWN, Copyright (c) 2000-2011 the FFmpeg developers built on Jan 10 2011 21:46:22 with gcc 4.4.2 configuration: --enable-static --disable-shared --disable-shared --disable-ffplay --disable-ffserver --enable-memalign-hack --enable-libmp3lame --arch=x86 --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-w32threads --target-os=mingw32 --cross-prefix=i686-mingw32- libavutil 50.36. 0 / 50.36. 0 libavcore 0.16. 0 / 0.16. 0 libavcodec 52.108. 0 / 52.108. 0 libavformat 52.92. 0 / 52.92. 0 libavdevice 52. 2. 3 / 52. 2. 3 libavfilter 1.72. 0 / 1.72. 0 libswscale 0.12. 0 / 0.12. 0

And finally here is the DEBUG file when launching the second file with samsung C profile, transcoding ON, Audio channel original ( not stereo mode )
After 3 - 5 minutes, this finish by a message on my TV " file format not supported " and my computer see his memory usage going to 50 % if I try to launch it again, the memory usage raise up to 98 %

( Posting it if you need it, the debug file exceed the max caract. ) found a way, file is in attachment

Any help would be appreciated, many thanks in advance.

Mon May 23, 2011 7:20 pm by Illico

Please result of ffmpeg -i "second file.mkv" (you need to add " " arround file path
Same with ffmpeg -i "D:\abcd\Hua.Mulan.2009.FRENCH.720p.BluRay.x264-FHD.mkv"

These files are mkv/h264/DTS or AC3 and must be transmitted in native format to your Samsung TV (Samsung DTV DMR (profile 7)).

So it seems that the x264 encoding settings are not supported by your Samsung.

Mon May 23, 2011 9:42 pm by becool

Illico wrote:Please result of ffmpeg -i "second file.mkv" (you need to add " " arround file path
Same with ffmpeg -i "D:\abcd\Hua.Mulan.2009.FRENCH.720p.BluRay.x264-FHD.mkv"

These files are mkv/h264/DTS or AC3 and must be transmitted in native format to your Samsung TV (Samsung DTV DMR (profile 7)).

So it seems that the x264 encoding settings are not supported by your Samsung.

Hi Illico, thanks for reply here are the files requested

First file ( working with samsung B profile not Samsung C )

Code:: D:\Hua.Mulan.2009.FRENCH.720p.BluRay.x264-FHD>ffmpeg -i hua.mulan.2009.french.720p.bluray.x264-fhd.mkv FFmpeg version UNKNOWN, Copyright (c) 2000-2011 the FFmpeg developers built on Jan 10 2011 21:46:22 with gcc 4.4.2 configuration: --enable-static --disable-shared --disable-shared --disable-ffplay --disable-ffserver --enable-memalign-hack --enable-libmp3lame --arch=x86 --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-w32threads --target-os=mingw32 --cross-prefix=i686-mingw32- libavutil 50.36. 0 / 50.36. 0 libavcore 0.16. 0 / 0.16. 0 libavcodec 52.108. 0 / 52.108. 0 libavformat 52.92. 0 / 52.92. 0 libavdevice 52. 2. 3 / 52. 2. 3 libavfilter 1.72. 0 / 1.72. 0 libswscale 0.12. 0 / 0.12. 0 [matroska,webm @ 014dbc00] max_analyze_duration reached [matroska,webm @ 014dbc00] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate Seems stream 0 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: 50.00 (50/1) -> 500.00 (500/1) Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'hua.mulan.2009.french.720p.bluray.x264-fhd.mkv': Duration: 01:49:40.95, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1536 kb/s Stream #0.0(eng): Video: h264, yuv420p, 1280x544, PAR 1:1 DAR 40:17, 25 fps, 500 tbr, 1k tbn, 50 tbc Stream #0.1(fre): Audio: dca, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 1536 kb/s Stream #0.2(fre): Subtitle: [0][0][0][0] / 0x0000 Metadata: title : Forced

And here is the second

Code:: FFmpeg version UNKNOWN, Copyright (c) 2000-2011 the FFmpeg developers built on Jan 10 2011 21:46:22 with gcc 4.4.2 configuration: --enable-static --disable-shared --disable-shared --disable-ffplay --disable-ffserver --enable-memalign-hack --enable-libmp3lame --arch=x86 --e nable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-w32threads --target-os=mingw32 --cross-prefix=i686-mingw32- libavutil 50.36. 0 / 50.36. 0 libavcore 0.16. 0 / 0.16. 0 libavcodec 52.108. 0 / 52.108. 0 libavformat 52.92. 0 / 52.92. 0 libavdevice 52. 2. 3 / 52. 2. 3 libavfilter 1.72. 0 / 1.72. 0 libswscale 0.12. 0 / 0.12. 0 [matroska,webm @ 0152bab0] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate Seems stream 2 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: 47.95 (5994/125) -> 23.98 (5994/250) Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'second file.mkv': Duration: 02:18:15.45, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1280 kb/s Chapter #0.0: start 0.000000, end 230.230000 Metadata: title : 00:00:00.000 Chapter #0.1: start 230.230000, end 535.368000 Metadata: title : 00:03:50.230 Chapter #0.2: start 535.368000, end 736.903000 Metadata: title : 00:08:55.368 Chapter #0.3: start 736.903000, end 984.317000 Metadata: title : 00:12:16.903 Chapter #0.4: start 984.317000, end 1183.182000 Metadata: title : 00:16:24.317 Chapter #0.5: start 1183.182000, end 1409.408000 Metadata: title : 00:19:43.182 Chapter #0.6: start 1409.408000, end 1646.812000 Metadata: title : 00:23:29.408 Chapter #0.7: start 1646.812000, end 1921.253000 Metadata: title : 00:27:26.812 Chapter #0.8: start 1921.253000, end 2023.188000 Metadata: title : 00:32:01.253 Chapter #0.9: start 2023.188000, end 2277.442000 Metadata: title : 00:33:43.188 Chapter #0.10: start 2277.442000, end 2455.620000 Metadata: title : 00:37:57.442 Chapter #0.11: start 2455.620000, end 2624.956000 Metadata: title : 00:40:55.620 Chapter #0.12: start 2624.956000, end 3042.706000 Metadata: title : 00:43:44.956 Chapter #0.13: start 3042.706000, end 3308.472000 Metadata: title : 00:50:42.706 Chapter #0.14: start 3308.472000, end 3603.099000 Metadata: title : 00:55:08.472 Chapter #0.15: start 3603.099000, end 3769.766000 Metadata: title : 01:00:03.099 Chapter #0.16: start 3769.766000, end 4132.295000 Metadata: title : 01:02:49.766 Chapter #0.17: start 4132.295000, end 4386.882000 Metadata: title : 01:08:52.295 Chapter #0.18: start 4386.882000, end 4581.410000 Metadata: title : 01:13:06.882 Chapter #0.19: start 4581.410000, end 4831.827000 Metadata: title : 01:16:21.410 Chapter #0.20: start 4831.827000, end 4967.129000 Metadata: title : 01:20:31.827 Chapter #0.21: start 4967.129000, end 5172.501000 Metadata: title : 01:22:47.129 Chapter #0.22: start 5172.501000, end 5392.887000 Metadata: title : 01:26:12.501 Chapter #0.23: start 5392.887000, end 5570.899000 Metadata: title : 01:29:52.887 Chapter #0.24: start 5570.899000, end 5830.825000 Metadata: title : 01:32:50.899 Chapter #0.25: start 5830.825000, end 6051.379000 Metadata: title : 01:37:10.825 Chapter #0.26: start 6051.379000, end 6297.791000 Metadata: title : 01:40:51.379 Chapter #0.27: start 6297.791000, end 6492.152000 Metadata: title : 01:44:57.791 Chapter #0.28: start 6492.152000, end 6745.572000 Metadata: title : 01:48:12.152 Chapter #0.29: start 6745.572000, end 6942.936000 Metadata: title : 01:52:25.572 Chapter #0.30: start 6942.936000, end 7057.550000 Metadata: title : 01:55:42.936 Chapter #0.31: start 7057.550000, end 7311.471000 Metadata: title : 01:57:37.550 Chapter #0.32: start 7311.471000, end 7458.451000 Metadata: title : 02:01:51.471 Chapter #0.33: start 7458.451000, end 7624.116000 Metadata: title : 02:04:18.451 Chapter #0.34: start 7624.116000, end 8189.681000 Metadata: title : 02:07:04.116 Chapter #0.35: start 8189.681000, end 8295.456000 Metadata: title : 02:16:29.681 Stream #0.0: Subtitle: [0][0][0][0] / 0x0000 Stream #0.1: Subtitle: [0][0][0][0] / 0x0000 Stream #0.2: Video: h264, yuv420p, 1280x720 [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 1k tbn, 47.95 tbc Stream #0.3(fre): Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 640 kb/s Stream #0.4(eng): Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 640 kb/s

Illico wrote:So it seems that the x264 encoding settings are not supported by your Samsung.

Do you think we could add some settings ? And also, why the first file is read on my TV if I change the setting in Serviio console ? For the second file, I am pretty sure it come from the initial encoding itself, but I am a total newbie in this domain

Regards,

Mon May 23, 2011 10:45 pm by zip

The first plays because the DTS audio is transcoded into AC3. But your C series TV supports DTS natively (normally), that's why it's not setup to be transcoded. It seems that this file is encoded in a way the TV doesn't like. You could remux it into MPEGTS via TsMuxer and see if you can play it then.

Tue May 24, 2011 5:47 am by becool

zip wrote:The first plays because the DTS audio is transcoded into AC3. But your C series TV supports DTS natively (normally), that's why it's not setup to be transcoded. It seems that this file is encoded in a way the TV doesn't like. You could remux it into MPEGTS via TsMuxer and see if you can play it then.

Hi zip,

I tried to load it in TsMuxer 1.10.6 and got the following error : TS muxer error " Matroska parse error :invalid H264NAL unit size. NAL unit truncated." And the program block on this.

About this first file, this means when I select Samsung Series B as it is not native, Serviio transcode it.
And obviously, not with profile C as it is supposed to be native and of course not supposed needed, in this case, serviio let it pass as it is correct ?
To be complete, do you think the problem with this file come from the sound or the video ? Or maybe both of them

? Should I give it a try with H264 LevelEditor_1.0.0 ?

Finally, what about the second file what do you think about it ?

EDIT: Got the same message from TsMuxer with the second file

Thanks,

Tue May 24, 2011 8:58 am by zip

About this first file, this means when I select Samsung Series B as it is not native, Serviio transcode it.
And obviously, not with profile C as it is supposed to be native and of course not supposed needed, in this case, serviio let it pass as it is correct ?

Correct

To be complete, do you think the problem with this file come from the sound or the video ? Or maybe both of them ? Should I give it a try with H264 LevelEditor_1.0.0 ?

Not sure, looks like audio or combination of audio and container.

Finally, what about the second file what do you think about it ?

No idea, it might be just encoded with a set of settings the TV doesn't like, it's hard to tell. I assume the file cannot be streamed via Samsung PC Share manager..?

Tue May 24, 2011 10:19 am by becool

zip wrote:

To be complete, do you think the problem with this file come from the sound or the video ? Or maybe both of them ? Should I give it a try with H264 LevelEditor_1.0.0 ?
Not sure, looks like audio or combination of audio and container.

Is there a way for me to re-encode it in a valid format? If yes, what do you suggest ( audio - vidéo format ? and of course which tool should I use for it ? )

Finally, what about the second file what do you think about it ?
No idea, it might be just encoded with a set of settings the TV doesn't like, it's hard to tell. I assume the file cannot be streamed via Samsung PC Share manager..?

Well, as Serviio does the job perfectly ( and I profit of this occasion to congrats all of the team for this incredible job !! bravo ) I removed Samsung PCM from my computer just to be sure it would not interact with serviio server.
Btw, is there any inconvenient to install Serviio on another Drive and directory ?

Thanks,

Tue May 24, 2011 10:38 am by zip

Is there a way for me to re-encode it in a valid format? If yes, what do you suggest ( audio - vidéo format ? and of course which tool should I use for it ? )

Google for the tool and search this forum for a format. I don't do it myself.

Btw, is there any inconvenient to install Serviio on another Drive and directory ?

No, you can install it anywhere

Thu May 26, 2011 2:59 pm by becool

Re - Edit,

After the update of the tv firmware these two files plays now perfectly. I confess I never did it on the TV and if I look into the versions numbers, I had a lot of difference in the version installed and the version available. In the other side, each time I tried to update the TV directly on samsung website, I had a nice message telling me " no new version were available", indeed the version on their website are compressed executable files

By the way, I know it is not in the good forum, but anybody know where are the patch notes for the firmware update on Samsung TV ?

Thanks for the help.

Thu May 26, 2011 3:08 pm by zip

becool wrote:By the way, I know it is not in the good forum, but anybody know where are the patch notes for the firmware update on Samsung TV ?

They don't release any notes unfortunatelly

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