How to play a full (removable USB) disk with Samsung F-Type

In accordance with Murphys Law "Nothing is as easy as it looks", my Samsung F-Type SmartTV's Media Player only smartly finds and plays media files in the root folder of a removable USB disk "K:\", though the USB disk is filled with many media files in its (sub)folders tree structure. It does not find and play any further media files within folders and subfolders!
Though, Seviio console 1.3.1 'Library' has the root folder of the removable USB disk "K:\" defined as Shared folder "K:\" and had found several hundred media files.
Samsung F-Type SmartTV's Media Player presents the 1st-level subfolders of Shared folder "K:\" ready for selection by the user. But, when one of the presented subfolders, e.g. "Show1" in "K:\" (Windows: "K:\Show1\") gets selected, then Samsung F-Type SmartTV's Media Player comes up with an error message, which translates to something like "Request failed. MEDIA PLAY return to Main Window".
If I put all content into a single subfolder so that "K:\" only contains subfolder "K:\All\" and I select "All" in "K:\" then I get a Samsung Error message which translates to "No media files found". In sum, only media files directly withinthe root folder "K:\", e.g. K:\bear.mov, are found and played by Samsung F-Type SmartTV's Media Player!
Neither 'Force Refresh' of Seviio console 1.3.1 'Library', nor, in Windows, Stop/Restart Serviio server, nor even Stop/Restart of Serviio service makes a difference!
BTW, I have the MAIN folders (Audio, Image, Video) set in Seviio console 1.3.1 'Library' to display ("Display category") in the presentation menu as described by DNLA master Cerberus in "folder browsing" in viewtopic.php?p=12004#p12004
Note:
This problem only exists in Samsung F-Type SmartTV's Media Player!
The fine Serviio related players ServiiGo (on phone and tablet) and Serviio's Mediabrowser (even in the SmartTV's Internet Browser) play well all media contents of "K:\" (and all its subfolders) using "Folder" view.
Any ideas?
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Edit: I found a very interesting suggestion in viewtopic.php?p=72625#p72625
Browse "All Content" category alone does not work for me.
I would like to try "add path" but do not know how to translate my "add local" notation to "add path" notation.
Please, could somebody tell me how my USB disk root folder "K:\" should be translated from "add local" notation to "add path" notation. Please, same for path to subfolder "K:\All\" .
Why does this make a difference in SmartTV? Does Serviio create and send to SmartTV different library lists depending on "add local" or "add path"?
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No answers?
So I will continue my research for a solution:
I established a simple test environment: a 32GB USB stick with a 1st level folder that contains 3 2nd-level subdolders
and media files populating each folder including disk root folder:
M:\
... M:\_All\
... ... M:\_All\PubAud\
... ... M:\_All\PubPic\
... ... M:\_All\PubPic\
Then I tested F-Type SmartTV performance in mode >All content >Video >Folder >folder "_All"
-> Result: SmartTV error message "Request failed. MEDIA PLAY returns to Main Window"
-->Remark: SmartTV cannot handle the 'folder' links from Serviio?
Then I tested F-Type SmartTV performance in mode >All content >Video >Last Added
-> Result: Is working! SmartTV presents all videos for selection and plays the selected video.
--> Serviio does send valid media file links to SmartTV
---> SmartTV can handle presented media files
----> SmartTV cannot handle the folder links from Serviio!
Note: I am talking about removable USB disks!
I did not notice any problem with folder navigation on internal disks!
But, I also did not try a full share of an internal disk "C:\" either. Does this work?
Folder views are very important. Folder structure is carefully and deliberately planned and maintained on large disks to quickly find the desired media file within its context. A flattening of the folder structure disables using Serviio and/or the SmartTV for real life usage. Samsung hardware is great, but its software renders it obsolete!
Much cheaper alternatives, much cheaper than SmartTVs, like Popcorn Hour C-200, offer far better performance and make it much easier for the user to browse through folders with many media file entries: e.g. instead of space consuming icons with mostly irrelevant optical content, C-200 offers directory listings with up to 15 entries per screen, each with full filenames, including file-type extension and filesize! No crippled filenames, crippled to some few characters filenames as in the glitter and gay grid views! This revives the morbid charm of names with up to 7 characters from the 1960s!
A good media catalog needs a list view like in Windows Explorer list mode, where the user will get all important file information at one glance!
Furthermore, the C-200 player has many flexible scrolling and jumping on the timeline options (the number keys of the remote control perform direct jumps to 10%, 20% ... 90% positions on the timeline by simply pressing a single digit! There is a simple input option to select any Jump to time in the timeline, playing in slow and fast motion, forwar and reverse, single frame etc.
In the current state SmartTV als Media Player is a step back into the stone age of media playing!
I will do away with the SmartTV and concentrate on ServiiGo for the tab and phone!
Though, a ServiiGo app variant for SmartTV, like there is a Plex app for SmartTV, might redeem us from all current SmartTV Media Player problems!
Regards
Though, Seviio console 1.3.1 'Library' has the root folder of the removable USB disk "K:\" defined as Shared folder "K:\" and had found several hundred media files.
Samsung F-Type SmartTV's Media Player presents the 1st-level subfolders of Shared folder "K:\" ready for selection by the user. But, when one of the presented subfolders, e.g. "Show1" in "K:\" (Windows: "K:\Show1\") gets selected, then Samsung F-Type SmartTV's Media Player comes up with an error message, which translates to something like "Request failed. MEDIA PLAY return to Main Window".
If I put all content into a single subfolder so that "K:\" only contains subfolder "K:\All\" and I select "All" in "K:\" then I get a Samsung Error message which translates to "No media files found". In sum, only media files directly withinthe root folder "K:\", e.g. K:\bear.mov, are found and played by Samsung F-Type SmartTV's Media Player!
Neither 'Force Refresh' of Seviio console 1.3.1 'Library', nor, in Windows, Stop/Restart Serviio server, nor even Stop/Restart of Serviio service makes a difference!
BTW, I have the MAIN folders (Audio, Image, Video) set in Seviio console 1.3.1 'Library' to display ("Display category") in the presentation menu as described by DNLA master Cerberus in "folder browsing" in viewtopic.php?p=12004#p12004
Note:
This problem only exists in Samsung F-Type SmartTV's Media Player!
The fine Serviio related players ServiiGo (on phone and tablet) and Serviio's Mediabrowser (even in the SmartTV's Internet Browser) play well all media contents of "K:\" (and all its subfolders) using "Folder" view.
Any ideas?
-----------------------
Edit: I found a very interesting suggestion in viewtopic.php?p=72625#p72625
dokie80 wrote:Hi there. I have F-series, and serviio working just fine with serviio for windows and serviio on NAS (WD Live). I had this exact problem also when I setup both on windows and NAS. Actually you can view the files/videos if you browse "All Content" category (or other category I think), but doesnt show up when you browse Folder category.shpak_evgen wrote:i have F-series TV, and i can see the folders only, but can't see (browse) any content of that folders. for example my another TV is E-series TV, and there is no problems at all.
...Hope you can (and wish) fix it.
-- For Windows --
The problem occurs for me because I share network folders with mapped drive (i.e. Z:/ for //hostname/Public). So, for the TV to be able to see files on folder view, you should choose "add path" in library, not "add local". use "//hostname/folder" path. This solution works for me for Serviio for Windows. ...
I would like to try "add path" but do not know how to translate my "add local" notation to "add path" notation.
Please, could somebody tell me how my USB disk root folder "K:\" should be translated from "add local" notation to "add path" notation. Please, same for path to subfolder "K:\All\" .
Why does this make a difference in SmartTV? Does Serviio create and send to SmartTV different library lists depending on "add local" or "add path"?
--------------------
No answers?
So I will continue my research for a solution:
I established a simple test environment: a 32GB USB stick with a 1st level folder that contains 3 2nd-level subdolders
and media files populating each folder including disk root folder:
M:\
... M:\_All\
... ... M:\_All\PubAud\
... ... M:\_All\PubPic\
... ... M:\_All\PubPic\
Then I tested F-Type SmartTV performance in mode >All content >Video >Folder >folder "_All"
-> Result: SmartTV error message "Request failed. MEDIA PLAY returns to Main Window"
-->Remark: SmartTV cannot handle the 'folder' links from Serviio?
Then I tested F-Type SmartTV performance in mode >All content >Video >Last Added
-> Result: Is working! SmartTV presents all videos for selection and plays the selected video.
--> Serviio does send valid media file links to SmartTV
---> SmartTV can handle presented media files
----> SmartTV cannot handle the folder links from Serviio!
Note: I am talking about removable USB disks!
I did not notice any problem with folder navigation on internal disks!
But, I also did not try a full share of an internal disk "C:\" either. Does this work?
Folder views are very important. Folder structure is carefully and deliberately planned and maintained on large disks to quickly find the desired media file within its context. A flattening of the folder structure disables using Serviio and/or the SmartTV for real life usage. Samsung hardware is great, but its software renders it obsolete!
Much cheaper alternatives, much cheaper than SmartTVs, like Popcorn Hour C-200, offer far better performance and make it much easier for the user to browse through folders with many media file entries: e.g. instead of space consuming icons with mostly irrelevant optical content, C-200 offers directory listings with up to 15 entries per screen, each with full filenames, including file-type extension and filesize! No crippled filenames, crippled to some few characters filenames as in the glitter and gay grid views! This revives the morbid charm of names with up to 7 characters from the 1960s!
A good media catalog needs a list view like in Windows Explorer list mode, where the user will get all important file information at one glance!
Furthermore, the C-200 player has many flexible scrolling and jumping on the timeline options (the number keys of the remote control perform direct jumps to 10%, 20% ... 90% positions on the timeline by simply pressing a single digit! There is a simple input option to select any Jump to time in the timeline, playing in slow and fast motion, forwar and reverse, single frame etc.
In the current state SmartTV als Media Player is a step back into the stone age of media playing!
I will do away with the SmartTV and concentrate on ServiiGo for the tab and phone!
Though, a ServiiGo app variant for SmartTV, like there is a Plex app for SmartTV, might redeem us from all current SmartTV Media Player problems!
Regards