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Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:53 am
by sunchar
Hi!!!
I have a movie in avi format that have dual audio, english and spanish. And in Samsung's D5550 can switch between this two. But i have MKV movies with dual audio too and I can't swith audio in the same TV. Maybe i'm doing something wrong.

What can i do for switch audio in MKV files???

Thanks!!!

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 6:36 pm
by Cerberus
sunchar wrote:Hi!!!
I have a movie in avi format that have dual audio, english and spanish. And in Samsung's D5550 can switch between this two. But i have MKV movies with dual audio too and I can't swith audio in the same TV. Maybe i'm doing something wrong.

What can i do for switch audio in MKV files???

Thanks!!!


Dual audio isnt support by TV or serviio, unless you mean dual subtitle language and then you can change that in teh tools menu on your TV but only external subtitles are supported and not embedded..

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 3:06 pm
by zip
Cerberus wrote:Dual audio isnt support by TV or serviio

That's not completely true. For non-transcoded content, Serviio just sends the file as is, so it he device supports audio switching (some do) all should work. In a case of transcoded content, Serviio only muxes the first audio track.

In response to the OP's question, it might be the player only supports this for certain containers, I'd ask on Samsung's forums or call their support.

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 6:24 pm
by Cerberus
zip wrote:
Cerberus wrote:Dual audio isnt support by TV or serviio

That's not completely true. For non-transcoded content, Serviio just sends the file as is, so it he device supports audio switching (some do) all should work. In a case of transcoded content, Serviio only muxes the first audio track.

In response to the OP's question, it might be the player only supports this for certain containers, I'd ask on Samsung's forums or call their support.


sorry i was not very clear on my post i have checked and i see no reference to dual audio for any samsung device unless im completely loosing the plot and have missed it :roll:

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 7:52 pm
by zip
Well, he's got a D series player, maybe it's something new.

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 9:05 pm
by Cerberus
zip wrote:Well, he's got a D series player, maybe it's something new.



i have scoured the samsung website to and there forum and no mention on this, if it is work i dont think samsung intended it to. i ahve submitted a question to there support on this to see what they say :)

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 4:19 pm
by sunchar
I will try with one MKV file directly from USB stick and check if it support multiple audio.
As far as i know, is not necesary to transcode MKV files for Samsung's D series.

Just give me a couple hours and i will tell you if TV support multi track audio from MKV files.

Thanks.

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 5:57 pm
by Cerberus
sunchar wrote:I will try with one MKV file directly from USB stick and check if it support multiple audio.
As far as i know, is not necesary to transcode MKV files for Samsung's D series.

Just give me a couple hours and i will tell you if TV support multi track audio from MKV files.

Thanks.


Support over USB and support over DLNA are not the same thing. As i said support for dual audio over DLNA is not supported, i havent looked or tested if it does work via USB.

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 6:12 pm
by sunchar
I don't know why you still saying that dual audio over DLNA is not supported, if i created this thread is because i haved teste some AVI files with dual audio over DLNA.
The point is that why i can't get dual audio with MKV files even when it have dual audio too.

I supose tha if it support dual audio over DLNA it will support it over USB.
I'm not at home right now, but i'll check a MKV file from a USB and check if this way TV can get dual audio. If it do may be is a transcode problem.


Thanks.

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 6:15 pm
by Cerberus
sunchar wrote:I don't know why you still saying that dual audio over DLNA is not supported, if i created this thread is because i haved teste some AVI files with dual audio OVER DLNA.
The point is that why i can't get dual audio with MKV files even when it have dual audio too.

Thanks.


ok can you upload this file that WORKS somewere i can download it and test myself as samsung are telling me this is NOT possible over DLNA.

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 6:20 pm
by sunchar
I have the links where i downloaded that file, but i'm not sure if i will break forum rules if i post links to copyrighted content.

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 6:25 pm
by Cerberus
sunchar wrote:I have the links where i downloaded that file, but i'm not sure if i will break forum rules if i post links to copyrighted content.


PM me them but im certainlty NOT paying to download any files.

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 6:32 pm
by sunchar
Please confirm if you received PM.

Thanks.

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 6:51 pm
by Cerberus
sunchar wrote:Please confirm if you received PM.

Thanks.


i have yes BUT to clarify my point that this is NOT support a message from samsung granted they linked me to topic about a different model but fact still stands they tell me.

by Samsung_HD_Tech

In Reply to: Plasma PS50C6500 with multi audio MKV ? by fboulange

fboulange,

Unfortunately, only one track is used per container, and the ability to use multiple subtitle files is not supported at this time.

--HDTech
Online Brand Ambassador


here is another link about this same subject

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-13973_102-511718.html

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 6:59 pm
by sunchar
Yes, I see.
May be the model, i don't know. I was surprised when i was playing a movie and it show me the button for change audio, this particular movie, i can play it in english and spanish.

Thanks for your time.

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:07 pm
by Cerberus
sunchar wrote:Yes, I see.
May be the model, i don't know. I was surprised when i was playing a movie and it show me the button for change audio, this particular movie, i can play it in english and spanish.

Thanks for your time.


yep it could be a random thing something that was not intended by samsung but that exact file give it in such a way that the tv allows it.

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:47 am
by sunchar
Hi!!!
Now i have tested with one MKV file that have dual audio directly from a USB stick and i can switch from english to spanish.
Now we know that MKV files with multiple audio streams are supported in Samsung's D TV. Now i think is good idea to check if this is a transcoding problem.

Thanks!!!!

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 4:11 am
by Cerberus
sunchar wrote:Hi!!!
Now i have tested with one MKV file that have dual audio directly from a USB stick and i can switch from english to spanish.
Now we know that MKV files with multiple audio streams are supported in Samsung's D TV. Now i think is good idea to check if this is a transcoding problem.

Thanks!!!!


ok i will say this one final time you can NOT compare functions from USB to that of function over DLNA they work COMPLETELY differently.

multi audio is NOT SUPPORTED over DLNA ( aka serviio )

multi audio IS SUPPORT for USB.

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:11 am
by sunchar
Cerberus, let me tell you ONE FINAL TIME too that i watch a movie OVER DLNA with dual audio. Idon't know how you dare to deny facts that you can't check by yourself and call me a liar.

I think that your replies in this post are confusing others and making this thread confuse too because it is not intended to discuse diferences (same that i know) between using DLNA and USB

Re: Dual audio with AVI file and MKV not

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:28 am
by Cerberus
sunchar wrote:Cerberus, let me tell you ONE FINAL TIME too that i watch a movie OVER DLNA with dual audio. Idon't know how you dare to deny facts that you can't check by yourself and call me a liar.

I think that your replies in this post are confusing others and making this thread confuse too because it is not intended to discuse diferences (same that i know) between using DLNA and USB


right SAMSUNG the manafacturer say this is NOT possible simple and end of conversation.