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DSD/DSF files on STR DN1050?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:42 am
by mimizone
Hello,
I am trying to play DSD / DSF / DFF files on a Sony STr-DN1050 via DLNA, which is stated to be possible in the Sony documentation.

I've tried unsuccessfully many DLNA servers on Mac OS X and Windows, including serviio which Sony's support recommended as a solution.

the Receiver sees the DLNA server, sees the DSF files in the library folders but can't recognize the type of the files and can't play them.

Any solution?
Did I forget to do something on the server side?
Or is it just plain impossible to read DSD/SF files via DLNA and Sony just lies in the documentation?

And by the way, I can play those same files on a USB stick plugged to the receiver.


Thanks for any help.

Re: DSD/DSF files on STR DN1050?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:46 am
by Illico
Could you check formats supported by your device with the DLNA Upnp GetProtocolInfo result ? see signature link.
A specific DLNA mime-type is probably needed.

Re: DSD/DSF files on STR DN1050?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:52 pm
by mimizone
Thanks Illico.

Attached is the list of protocols returned.
I am not sure how to use the "audio:localRender" value in the config/profiles.xml file of serviio.
could you show me?

you can find what seems to be the same output here.
http://www.upnp-database.info/action.jsp?actionId=16643

Re: DSD/DSF files on STR DN1050?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:00 pm
by Illico
Thanks,

seems that something like this should strike.
http-get:*:audio/dsf:*,
http-get:*:audio/diff:*,
http-get:*:audio/dsd:*,
http-get:*:audio/x-dsd:*

Could you provide files format information with "ffmpeg -i" output ? (see signature)

DSD file are not supported yet by serviio, need some development...

Re: DSD/DSF files on STR DN1050?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:13 pm
by Illico
There were a opened ticket about this: https://bitbucket.org/xnejp03/serviio/i ... -libraries

Re: DSD/DSF files on STR DN1050?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:32 am
by mimizone
Thanks for looking into this.

How could I put this mime types and the right Profile in the profiles.xml file?

I'll get the additional info you asked for with ffmpeg.


I guess there is no point trying more until the DSD support is added in serviio?

Re: DSD/DSF files on STR DN1050?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:37 am
by mimizone
Attached are the outputs of ffmpeg -i for 2 different files.
one is a DSF, one is a DFF

Will DSD be ever supported in serviio?
Not sure how it is streamable over DLNA.

I read that typically it has to be stuffed into a PCM format (DoP=DSD of PCM) used as an encapsulation.
The receiver or DAC then see a special flag in the metadata part, hinting it is indeed a DSD and not a PCM.

Not sure the Sony receiver supports this method over DLNA, or if the actual file content can be sent as is.

Re: DSD/DSF files on STR DN1050?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:49 pm
by Illico
There is only one developer for serviio, Zip.
If you want this feature added, you can vote to the ticket
https://bitbucket.org/xnejp03/serviio/i ... -libraries