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MKVs Stuttering

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:33 pm
by marculos
Hi,

It seems all MKVs stutter on my 2 year old 32" bravia. I have serviio setup on a couple of different pcs, one a 2008 server with celeron 2.4 cpu, and another Windows 7 pc with a quad core q6600 cpu,using DLNA over 200 mb ethernet home plugs anything I can do to stop the stuttering ? It seems to affect all MKV files ...

Re: MKVs Stuttering

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:02 am
by marculos
I have done some more testing .. I understand the highest birate the bravia can handle is around 20 mbps ? I used bitrate viewer to check the bitrate on an mkv and it was averaging at 6160 kbps which is 6.16 mbps so should be able to handle that ?

Are there any specific renderer settings or anyother settings I could change that might help ?

Cheers

Re: MKVs Stuttering

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:14 am
by Illico
Could you provide informations about your mkv files, with MediaInfo result and "ffmpeg -i " (see signature links) ?
What is your model number?
Do you have automatic library update enabled?

Re: MKVs Stuttering

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:57 am
by zip
can you try it via a direct LAN connection rather than the plug?

Re: MKVs Stuttering

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:23 am
by patters
Are you talking full on stuttering, or some very slight jerkiness during smooth panning shots? I notice that my 2009 Bravia (on the MKVs it can play without transcoding) converts the frame rate from 24fps to 60fps, but it does so rather badly compared to the Sony BDP.

Re: MKVs Stuttering

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:23 am
by marculos
It will play fine for a few seconds then stutters every few seconds. Its the same with all MKVs. Will try and get the info you need. Ihaev tried with a direct lan connection and get the same issue I think, will double check, thanks.

Re: MKVs Stuttering

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:37 am
by marculos
heres screenshot from ffmpeg

Re: MKVs Stuttering

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:37 am
by marculos
media screenshot

Re: MKVs Stuttering

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:47 am
by marculos
TV Model is KDL-32W5500 using "Sony Bravia TV" profile

Re: MKVs Stuttering

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:56 am
by Illico
Video Codec is probably the problem: AVC High Level 5.1 (CABAC/16 RefFrames) is too high: For sony devices it seems that 4.1 is the max.

Could you rename the file, force library refresh and check the log file?
->This file must be detected with an high level profile.
Could you also check the log file when you start this movie?
->must be transcode into mpeg2video with ffmpeg.

Re: MKVs Stuttering

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:51 pm
by zip
Illico wrote:Video Codec is probably the problem: AVC High Level 5.1 (CABAC/16 RefFrames) is too high: For sony devices it seems that 4.1 is the max.

Yep, but in that case the file is transcoded, which I'm assuming the Celeron might not cope.

Re: MKVs Stuttering

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:30 pm
by marculos
ok, will test with the quad core q6600 and see what results I get.. Starting to think it might be easier to just buy a MKV player .. would just be nice if I could watch HD video through DLNA ...

Re: MKVs Stuttering

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:44 pm
by Illico
zip wrote:Yep, but in that case the file is transcoded, which I'm assuming the Celeron might not cope.

Is this still/always true?
I noticed that sometimes serviio can not detect the h264 profile and therefore after the file is not transcoded.
Marculos, to be sure, could you check the log file to see if file is delivered in native format or transcoded with mpeg2video.

Re: MKVs Stuttering

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:10 pm
by marculos
will do , just had to rebuild the q6600 pc, want to test on that so can rule out issue with CPU, just need to refresh the library which may take a while, thanks for everyones help, much appreciated

Re: MKVs Stuttering

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:14 am
by marculos
heres the log when the file is added. Two useful things for log files, Trace32 which comes with sccm toolkit is excellent for viewing log files as it auto refreshes, 2 - a program called VIM is excellent for opening huge log files without crashing.

Re: MKVs Stuttering

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:16 am
by marculos
we have some success ! It seems MKVs with AVC High Level 4.1 codec now (though need some more testing to be sure) play ok on the quad core pc. What I cant find is entries in the serviio.log when a video is playing, not sure why. Anyway I guess I could convert AVC 5.1 to 4.1 so that the mkvs can be played ? Many thanks for everyones help.

Re: MKVs Stuttering

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:55 pm
by patters
marculos wrote:Two useful things for log files, Trace32 which comes with sccm toolkit is excellent for viewing log files as it auto refreshes, 2 - a program called VIM is excellent for opening huge log files without crashing.


As you've probably noticed, Serviio's logs segment as they grow, with the latest one always being called serviio.log, so they're never too big. Rather than posting screenshots it's far easier to simply open them in Notepad and paste the relevant bits here inside [code] tags so they are collapsed until clicked on, for better forum readability.