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[OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:28 am
by totototo
Hi,

I recently moved from old of version of Serviio to latest 1.5.1 on Yosemite.
I can't find the menu in system's menu bar that used to be the proper way to kill the server process.
Read some info in this forum that menu has been removed and this could be done through right-click on the console's dock icon...
Dock menu would not allow to kill the server in my case (only quit console and enable some library indexing).

It seems with 1.5 thinks have changed quite a bit on OSX in terms of ways server is being integrated in the system (launched at system boot, etc)
Could not find an article on this, that explains the basics, and particularly how to start/stop the server process at will through some simple UI menus.

I sporadically use Serviio on some of my machines, and definitely do not want the server process to run always in the background.

Thanks for any help.

Best

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:21 pm
by zip
There are the commands to use to start/stop the server in the FAQ.

You can also disable autostart like this: http://wiki.serviio.org/doku.php?id=mac ... _autostart

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:36 am
by mpi
Thanks Zip for your kind reply, and all the hard work.
Actually I did remove the autostart file, but then commands to start/stop the daemon won't work!... :)

I understand current logic is great for a NAS or dedicated server Mac/PC.
However, for people willing to sporadically use Serviio on their laptop to share stuff at home/Friends'/Family places (but not at work or Public hotspot places!), it's important to easily start/stop Serviio, and not let it run in the background.
It is a hard requirement on Users to mess around with command-line.
Simple UI within console app would really make it more versatile in such common use-cases.
Any chance this would evolve soon?

Thanks for consideration.
Best.

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:57 pm
by zip
Ah yes, you're right re: removing the playlist and then not being able to stop / start.

Instead of removing the file, try to edit it and change this

  Code:
<key>RunAtLoad</key>
<true/>   


to this

  Code:
<key>RunAtLoad</key>
<false/>   

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:00 am
by mpi
Hi,

Thanks for the suggestion indeed.

Should I infer from your statement that user-friendly start/stop server's process/daemon from UI is not under consideration?
I imagine there are lots of people using Serviio on laptops, moving from places to places (home, family, public hotspots, work) and sharing unknowingly personal content.

Thanks.

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:27 pm
by zip
The thing is that once the server is stopped, the UI cannot connect to it to control it. This is how it works on Windows from the beginning so I don't think it's such a big deal for most.

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:10 am
by mpi
Understood.
Then the previous menu item was a good option to quit the server (though in some cases it did not show up).
One could also choose to have the server be included in launch items and/or removed through UI in User/Group prefpane: installer could include it there by default, but then users will naturally find ways to remove it without tinkering with terminal commands.
I agree this is a Mac-centric view, but it is quite legitimate for an app on Mac.

Thanks again for all this great work on Serviio.

Best

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:56 am
by zip
mpi wrote:One could also choose to have the server be included in launch items and/or removed through UI in User/Group prefpane: installer could include it there by default, but then users will naturally find ways to remove it without tinkering with terminal commands.
I agree this is a Mac-centric view, but it is quite legitimate for an app on Mac.

Oh, I didn't know this existed. Could you create a bitbucket ticket with some more information / links?

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:32 pm
by mpi
Hi Zip,

Done here.
Hope it may help.
Let me know.

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:37 am
by GabrielLogan
mpi wrote:Hi Zip,

Done here.
Hope it may help.
Let me know.


It's the fifth thread that at I found with the same need.
Disable autorun on login on Mac.

Somedy have a solution?

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:41 am
by zip
GabrielLogan wrote:
mpi wrote:Hi Zip,

Done here.
Hope it may help.
Let me know.


It's the fifth thread that at I found with the same need.
Disable autorun on login on Mac.

Somedy have a solution?

So stop posting the same question again and again. I already replied to one of them.