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Posted: **Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:22 pm**

Im looking for a sony blu-ray player that has all the functions and menu look as the smp-n100 but also has no Cinavia Protected support. my ps3 is Cinavia Protected and i dont like it

help please also does the smp-n100 also Cinavia Protected?

Posted: **Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:46 am**

dschelsea82 wrote:help please also does the smp-n100 also Cinavia Protected?

I don't think so, but I can't verify, Sony BDP S370 to S780 use the same menu of SMP-N100.

Posted: **Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:41 pm**

I just read up on that Cinavia tech at Wikipedia. I have the SMP-N100 and a BDP-S370 and have never had content rejected. However, I tend to play downloaded content (not stuff I've ripped myself), and I use European devices (US firmwares could be different with respect to Cinavia). From reading that wiki article it suggests that all Bluray players are officially supposed to reject Cinavia protected streams - so it's a sort of modern audio equivalent to DVD Macrovision protection (which was a signal modification to exploit a quirk of VCR auto gain, effectively preventing recording of DVDs onto VHS). It seems to be an afterthought of a standard so earlier players generally don't have it. Are only certain titles actually Cinavia protected then, or are all Blurays meant to be?

EDIT - found this useful maintained list:
http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php ... 7b&t=41885

So, assuming that thread is up to date (it seems to be very actively maintained) then the Sony BDP series are ok for now. However, this is an extremely good reason not to blindly update the firmware unless you've done the proper research first.

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:51 am**

patters wrote:I just read up on that Cinavia tech at Wikipedia. I have the SMP-N100 and a BDP-S370 and have never had content rejected. However, I tend to play downloaded content (not stuff I've ripped myself), and I use European devices (US firmwares could be different with respect to Cinavia). From reading that wiki article it suggests that all Bluray players are officially supposed to reject Cinavia protected streams - so it's a sort of modern audio equivalent to DVD Macrovision protection (which was a signal modification to exploit a quirk of VCR auto gain, effectively preventing recording of DVDs onto VHS). It seems to be an afterthought of a standard so earlier players generally don't have it. Are only certain titles actually Cinavia protected then, or are all Blurays meant to be?

EDIT - found this useful maintained list:
http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php ... 7b&t=41885

So, assuming that thread is up to date (it seems to be very actively maintained) then the Sony BDP series are ok for now. However, this is an extremely good reason not to blindly update the firmware unless you've done the proper research first.

only certain titles will have this protection, and i agree always check what a firnmware update is adding before installing it.

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