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Posted: **Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:01 pm**

Here's the ffmpeg -i of two files that won't play with the Generic profile:

Code:: [matroska,webm @ 0x101807c00] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate Input #0, matroska,webm, from '/Users/daniel/Desktop/TV/the.daily.show.2011.07.13.matthew.richardson.720p.hdtv.x264-momentum.mkv': Duration: 00:20:45.61, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 384 kb/s Stream #0.0(eng): Video: h264 (High), yuv420p, 1280x720, PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9, 59.94 fps, 59.94 tbr, 1k tbn, 119.88 tbc (default) Stream #0.1: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 384 kb/s (default)

Code:: [matroska,webm @ 0x101807c00] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate Input #0, matroska,webm, from '/Users/daniel/Desktop/TV/the.colbert.report.2011.07.11.michael.shermer.720p.hdtv.x264-momentum.mkv': Duration: 00:20:56.98, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 384 kb/s Stream #0.0(eng): Video: h264 (High), yuv420p, 1280x720, PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9, 59.94 fps, 59.94 tbr, 1k tbn, 119.88 tbc (default) Stream #0.1: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 384 kb/s (default)

Posted: **Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:16 pm**

Did you try the Viera profile?

Posted: **Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:11 pm**

For the sake of pinpointing exactly what plays or not, I'll do my test with the generic profile.

This will play:

Code:: [matroska,webm @ 0x101807c00] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate Input #0, matroska,webm, from '/Users/daniel/Desktop/TV/futurama.s06e18.720p.hdtv.x264-immerse.mkv': Duration: 00:21:01.01, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 384 kb/s Stream #0.0(eng): Video: h264 (High), yuv420p, 1280x720, PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9, 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 1k tbn, 47.95 tbc (default) Stream #0.1(eng): Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 384 kb/s (default)

But this won't:

Code:: [matroska,webm @ 0x101807c00] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate Input #0, matroska,webm, from '/Users/daniel/Desktop/TV/the.daily.show.2011.07.14.sgt.1st.class.leroy.petry.720p.hdtv.x264-momentum.mkv': Duration: 00:21:28.08, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 384 kb/s Stream #0.0(eng): Video: h264 (High), yuv420p, 1280x720, PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9, 59.94 fps, 59.94 tbr, 1k tbn, 119.88 tbc (default) Stream #0.1: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 384 kb/s (default)

Posted: **Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:15 pm**

This will play:

Code:: [matroska,webm @ 0x101807c00] max_analyze_duration 5000000 reached at 5002000 [matroska,webm @ 0x101807c00] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate Input #0, matroska,webm, from '/Users/daniel/Desktop/TV/miral.2010.1080p.bluray.x264-brmp.mkv': Duration: 01:45:37.95, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1536 kb/s Stream #0.0(eng): Video: h264 (High), yuv420p, 1920x800 [PAR 1:1 DAR 12:5], 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 1k tbn, 47.95 tbc (default) Stream #0.1(eng): Audio: dca (DTS), 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 1536 kb/s (default)

But this won't:

Code:: [matroska,webm @ 0x101807c00] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate Input #0, matroska,webm, from '/Volumes/USB HD 2/rio.1080p.bluray.x264-honorblu.mkv': Duration: 01:35:57.81, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1536 kb/s Stream #0.0(eng): Video: h264 (High), yuv420p, 1920x800 [PAR 1:1 DAR 12:5], 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 1k tbn, 47.95 tbc (default) (forced) Stream #0.1(eng): Audio: dca (DTS), 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 1536 kb/s (default) (forced)

Posted: **Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:27 pm**

Apart from a couple of MKVs with DTS that won't play, most of the problematic files are with AC3, so I made this little profile for DMP-BD75:

Code:: <Profile id="16" name="Panasonic BD Player" extendsProfileId="1"> <Transcoding> <Video targetContainer="mpegts"> <Matches container="matroska" aCodec="ac3" /> </Video> </Transcoding> </Profile>

It's more a profile that fits my MKVs consumption, rather than truly identifying and addressing the problem per se, but from the attributes available, this profile circumvent most of my playback problems.

Posted: **Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:03 pm**

Kewl wrote:For the sake of pinpointing exactly what plays or not, I'll do my test with the generic profile.

ok then good luck cause your wasting your time, unless you follow zips instruction and test with viera profile, the profiles aint there for the fun of it theres a reason.

Posted: **Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:53 pm**

Cerberus wrote:
Kewl wrote:For the sake of pinpointing exactly what plays or not, I'll do my test with the generic profile.

ok then good luck cause your wasting your time, unless you follow zips instruction and test with viera profile, the profiles aint there for the fun of it theres a reason.

You know, there's actually a polite way to say this.

If you look at the Viera profile, it "Remux all h264 video to MPEG-TS stream", but then again "FFmpeg cannot currently remux dts audio properly so it must be transcoded".

Since the Panasonic DMP-BD75 plays directly MKVs with H264 and DTS, I'd like to avoid transcoding, hence my little profile.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:31 am**

Kewl wrote:
Cerberus wrote:
Kewl wrote:For the sake of pinpointing exactly what plays or not, I'll do my test with the generic profile.

ok then good luck cause your wasting your time, unless you follow zips instruction and test with viera profile, the profiles aint there for the fun of it theres a reason.

You know, there's actually a polite way to say this.

If you look at the Viera profile, it "Remux all h264 video to MPEG-TS stream", but then again "FFmpeg cannot currently remux dts audio properly so it must be transcoded".

Since the Panasonic DMP-BD75 plays directly MKVs with H264 and DTS, I'd like to avoid transcoding, hence my little profile.

trust me better than just completely ignoring the thread

Posted: **Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:27 pm**

the files that play and that don't look pretty similar. Can you run MediaInfo on those (pick 2) and post the result here?

Posted: **Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:06 pm**

With the generic profile, this file with AC3 will play:

Code:: General Unique ID : 201996688025094940412225835588701963237 (0x97F725A2AC88DCE59B83B12C18A8C3E5) Complete name : /Users/daniel/Desktop/TV/Torchwood.S04E02.720p.HDTV.X264-DIMENSION.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 2 File size : 1.44 GiB Duration : 53mn 43s Overall bit rate : 3 835 Kbps Encoded date : UTC 2011-07-15 21:33:00 Writing application : mkvmerge v3.1.0 ('Happy up here') built on Jan 19 2010 12:09:24 Writing library : libebml v0.7.9 + libmatroska v0.8.1 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.1 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 8 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 53mn 43s Bit rate : 3 375 Kbps Width : 1 280 pixels Height : 720 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 23.976 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.153 Stream size : 1.27 GiB (88%) Writing library : x264 core 115 r2008 4c552d8 Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=8 / deblock=1:2:2 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=5 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=18.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 Language : English Audio ID : 2 Format : AC-3 Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 Mode extension : CM (complete main) Codec ID : A_AC3 Duration : 53mn 43s Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 384 Kbps Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Bit depth : 16 bits Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 148 MiB (10%)

But this one will not:

Code:: General Unique ID : 191275043405767990505900013818025306699 (0x8FE63BBE323A1F8C26EB34BBD65B6A4B) Complete name : /Users/daniel/Desktop/TV/the.daily.show.2011.07.14.sgt.1st.class.leroy.petry.720p.hdtv.x264-momentum.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 2 File size : 441 MiB Duration : 21mn 28s Overall bit rate : 2 873 Kbps Encoded date : UTC 2011-07-15 09:00:17 Writing application : mkvmerge v4.8.0 ('I Got The...') built on Jun 13 2011 20:36:23 Writing library : libebml v1.2.0 + libmatroska v1.1.0 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.1 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames Muxing mode : Header stripping Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 21mn 28s Bit rate : 2 432 Kbps Width : 1 280 pixels Height : 720 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 59.940 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.044 Stream size : 373 MiB (85%) Writing library : x264 core 116 r2019 9cc407d Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=8 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=14 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=300 / keyint_min=30 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=19.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 Language : English Audio ID : 2 Format : AC-3 Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 Mode extension : CM (complete main) Muxing mode : Header stripping Codec ID : A_AC3 Duration : 21mn 28s Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 384 Kbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel positions : Front: L R Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Bit depth : 16 bits Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 59.0 MiB (13%)

One obvious difference is the frame rate.

As for files with DTS, this one will play:

Code:: General Unique ID : 221529558880474874102622854542287181005 (0xA6A90A85A06937D3AF0D2A71D5DC14CD) Complete name : /Users/daniel/Desktop/TV/Black.Swan.2010.BluRay.1080p.DTS.x264-CHD.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 2 File size : 14.0 GiB Duration : 1h 48mn Overall bit rate : 18.5 Mbps Encoded date : UTC 2011-03-02 05:22:57 Writing application : mkvmerge v3.2.0 ('Beginnings') 编译于 Feb 12 2010 16:46:17 Writing library : libebml v0.7.9 + libmatroska v0.8.1 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.1 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=51 Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 1h 48mn Bit rate : 17.0 Mbps Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 800 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1 Frame rate : 23.976 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.462 Stream size : 12.6 GiB (90%) Title : Black.Swan.2010 Writing library : x264 core 107 r1766 f9f0035 Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.05:0.10 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=48 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=6 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=17025 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.70 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=40000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:0.80 / nal_hrd=none Language : English Audio ID : 2 Format : DTS Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems Codec ID : A_DTS Duration : 1h 48mn Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Bit depth : 24 bits Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 1.14 GiB (8%) Title : DTS-CORE 1536K Language : English

But this one will not:

Code:: General Unique ID : 42114409264251276477601666041833976031 (0x1FAEF0B03DA0464135973C470DC1F0DF) Complete name : /Volumes/USB HD 2/Rio 2011 1080p Blu-ray Remux AVC DTS-HD MA 5.1 - KRaLiMaRKo.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 2 File size : 16.6 GiB Duration : 1h 35mn Overall bit rate : 24.8 Mbps Encoded date : UTC 2011-07-17 18:14:10 Writing application : mkvmerge v4.9.1 ('Ich will') built on Jul 16 2011 01:34:58 Writing library : libebml v1.2.1 + libmatroska v1.2.0 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.1 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 1h 35mn Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 22.7 Mbps Maximum bit rate : 31.5 Mbps Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 23.976 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.457 Stream size : 15.2 GiB (92%) Language : English Audio ID : 2 Format : DTS Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems Format profile : MA / Core Codec ID : A_DTS Duration : 1h 35mn Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 1 561 Kbps / 1 510 Kbps Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Bit depth : 24 bits Compression mode : Lossless / Lossy Language : English

Posted: **Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:47 am**

With mkvmerge v4.9.1 and mkvmerge v3.1.0 have a look at this: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1132

Posted: **Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:48 pm**

Illico wrote:With mkvmerge v4.9.1 and mkvmerge v3.1.0 have a look at this: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1132

Yes, that did the trick on the MKV/H264/AC3 at 59.94 fps. Thanks.

I'm left with one MKV/H264/DTS that won't play (the big 17 GB Rio), but I suspect there's a problem with the video encoding itself.

While testing, I stumbled on a file that will play fine (transcoded) on the Sony BDP-S370, but not on the Panasonic DMP-BD75. The Panny is able to play it (either transcoded or not), but it can't adequately decompress the video. I can see the keyframes go by, but between them, it becomes all blocky, as if the decompression can't make sense of the data between keyframes.

Here the MediaInfo on the file:

Code:: General Unique ID : 200017267549201052049209797562387506611 (0x9679ECABD1B2F3647B44FB05707DA5B3) Complete name : /Volumes/USB HD/Starship.Troopers.1997.1080p.BluRay.x264-hV.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 2 File size : 10.1 GiB Duration : 2h 9mn Overall bit rate : 11.2 Mbps Encoded date : UTC 2011-07-18 13:28:24 Writing application : mkvmerge v4.9.1 ('Ich will') built on Jul 16 2011 01:34:58 Writing library : libebml v1.2.1 + libmatroska v1.2.0 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L5.1 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 8 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 2h 9mn Bit rate : 9 677 Kbps Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 040 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 23.976 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.202 Stream size : 8.56 GiB (85%) Writing library : x264 core 56 svn-667C Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-4:-4 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=6 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=4,6 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=9677 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / zones=171650,186472,b=0.15 / aq=1:0.3:15.0 Language : English Audio ID : 2 Format : DTS Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems Codec ID : A_DTS Duration : 2h 9mn Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Bit depth : 24 bits Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 1.37 GiB (13%) Language : English

Could it be because of this?

Code:: Format profile : High@L5.1

Posted: **Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:35 pm**

Kewl wrote:Could it be because of this?[code]Format profile : High@L5.1

Yes at 80%
20% ( libebml v1.2.1 used, x264 Encoding settings used, if DTS is remuxed into MPEGTS this is not supported yet with current ffmpeg version)

Posted: **Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:53 pm**

Illico wrote:if DTS is remuxed into MPEGTS this is not supported yet with current ffmpeg version)

When I transcode anything with DTS, it's always to AC3 at 640 kbps.

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