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Posted: **Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:20 am**

movie2.txt: this file is transcoded; (2.06 KiB) Downloaded 497 times

movie1.txt: this play without trancode; (2.06 KiB) Downloaded 480 times

Hi, i'm new here...
i'll go straight to the point.
I have two files with exactly the same codecs and container (container: MP4, codec: AVC1 AAC), in one case it play normally without transcoding. But in the other case the movie is transcoded, and cause a slow image.
I've been looking in profiles, but i didnt found anything; serviio is configured with Sony Bravia TV (2012) profile.
The tv i'm using is a Sony Bravia kdl-32ex655.
Can someone help to solving this issue? because i'm dry of ideas.
Thanks in advance.

ps: i atached two fourcc codec analysis.
The two files play fine with the windows dnla server by default (play to option)

Posted: **Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:19 am**

Have a look at both files using MediaInfo (and/or do an fmpeg -i for each - see here for details) and post the results. There must be some difference in the files that is triggering transcoding in one case but not the other - once you find it, you can modify the profile so that it is no longer a trigger. For example, the Sony Bravia (2012) profile will transcode if the h264 profile level is over 4.1 - your attachments don't show this level of detail.

Posted: **Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:34 pm**

Thanks for the help. Here is the result for ffmpeg -i for each file:

this one play:

Code:: ffmpeg version N-51683-g9dc88ac Copyright (c) 2000-2013 the FFmpeg developers built on Apr 8 2013 21:19:21 with gcc 4.8.0 (GCC) configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --disable-w32threads --enable-av isynth --enable-bzlib --enable-fontconfig --enable-frei0r --enable-gnutls --enab le-iconv --enable-libass --enable-libbluray --enable-libcaca --enable-libfreetyp e --enable-libgsm --enable-libilbc --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopencore-amrn b --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libopus --enable-libr tmp --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libsoxr --enable-libspeex --enable-libtheo ra --enable-libtwolame --enable-libvo-aacenc --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-li bvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxavs --enable-libxvid --ena ble-zlib libavutil 52. 25.100 / 52. 25.100 libavcodec 55. 2.100 / 55. 2.100 libavformat 55. 1.100 / 55. 1.100 libavdevice 55. 0.100 / 55. 0.100 libavfilter 3. 49.101 / 3. 49.101 libswscale 2. 2.100 / 2. 2.100 libswresample 0. 17.102 / 0. 17.102 libpostproc 52. 2.100 / 52. 2.100 Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'Hitchcock.2012.1080p.BluRay.x264.YIFY.m p4': Metadata: major_brand : isom minor_version : 1 compatible_brands: isomavc1 creation_time : 2013-03-05 05:56:31 Duration: 01:38:20.95, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 2191 kb/s Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 1920x800 [SAR 1:1 DAR 12:5], 2091 kb/s, 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 24k tbn, 47.95 tbc Metadata: creation_time : 2013-03-05 05:56:31 handler_name : mkv.264#trackID=1:fps=23.976@GPAC0.5.1-DEV-rev4283 Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: aac (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 95 kb/s Metadata: creation_time : 2013-03-05 03:17:38 handler_name : Sound Media Handler At least one output file must be specified

this one, don't play:

Code:: ffmpeg version N-51683-g9dc88ac Copyright (c) 2000-2013 the FFmpeg developers built on Apr 8 2013 21:19:21 with gcc 4.8.0 (GCC) configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --disable-w32threads --enable-av isynth --enable-bzlib --enable-fontconfig --enable-frei0r --enable-gnutls --enab le-iconv --enable-libass --enable-libbluray --enable-libcaca --enable-libfreetyp e --enable-libgsm --enable-libilbc --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopencore-amrn b --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libopus --enable-libr tmp --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libsoxr --enable-libspeex --enable-libtheo ra --enable-libtwolame --enable-libvo-aacenc --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-li bvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxavs --enable-libxvid --ena ble-zlib libavutil 52. 25.100 / 52. 25.100 libavcodec 55. 2.100 / 55. 2.100 libavformat 55. 1.100 / 55. 1.100 libavdevice 55. 0.100 / 55. 0.100 libavfilter 3. 49.101 / 3. 49.101 libswscale 2. 2.100 / 2. 2.100 libswresample 0. 17.102 / 0. 17.102 libpostproc 52. 2.100 / 52. 2.100 Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'Django.Unchained.2012.1080p.BluRay.x264 .YIFY.mp4': Metadata: major_brand : isom minor_version : 1 compatible_brands: isomavc1 creation_time : 2013-03-26 12:09:32 Duration: 02:45:22.79, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1906 kb/s Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 1920x800 [SAR 1:1 DAR 12:5], 1806 kb/s, 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 24k tbn, 47.95 tbc Metadata: creation_time : 2013-03-26 12:09:32 handler_name : unchained.2012.1080p.bluray.x264-sparks.mkv.264#trackID= 1:fps=23.976@GPAC0.5.1-DEV-rev4283 Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: aac (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 96 kb/s Metadata: creation_time : 2013-03-26 07:10:36 handler_name : Sound Media Handler At least one output file must be specified

i didn't see any diference, but perhaps i'm missing something.

edit: here is the analysis with media info

Posted: **Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:37 pm**

Please in future, extract MediaInfo in text format in english langage.

I don't know why these two files are not play in same way...

Posted: **Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:07 pm**

i've tried some modes in the profile, but nothing seems to make it work properly.
here is the media info in english for the two files.
this one use transcode:

Code:: General Complete name : D:\MediaCenter\Peliculas\Django Unchained (2012) [1080p]\Django.Unchained.2012.1080p.BluRay.x264.YIFY.mp4 Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : Base Media Codec ID : isom File size : 2.20 GiB Duration : 2h 45mn Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 1 907 Kbps Encoded date : UTC 2013-03-26 12:09:32 Tagged date : UTC 2013-03-26 12:09:32 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.0 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames Codec ID : avc1 Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding Duration : 2h 45mn Bit rate : 1 807 Kbps Maximum bit rate : 12.2 Mbps Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 800 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.049 Stream size : 2.09 GiB (95%) Title : unchained.2012.1080p.bluray.x264-sparks.mkv.264#trackID=1:fps=23.976@GPAC0.5.1-DEV-rev4283 Writing library : x264 core 129 r2245 bc13772 Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=1807 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 Encoded date : UTC 2013-03-26 12:09:32 Tagged date : UTC 2013-03-26 12:09:53 Audio ID : 2 Format : AAC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Format profile : LC Codec ID : 40 Duration : 2h 45mn Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 96.0 Kbps Maximum bit rate : 136 Kbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel positions : Front: L R Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 114 MiB (5%) Language : English Encoded date : UTC 2013-03-26 07:10:36 Tagged date : UTC 2013-03-26 12:09:53

this one not:

Code:: General Complete name : D:\MediaCenter\Peliculas\Hitchcock (2012) [1080p]\Hitchcock.2012.1080p.BluRay.x264.YIFY.mp4 Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : Base Media Codec ID : isom File size : 1.51 GiB Duration : 1h 38mn Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 2 191 Kbps Encoded date : UTC 2013-03-05 05:56:31 Tagged date : UTC 2013-03-05 05:56:31 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.0 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames Codec ID : avc1 Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding Duration : 1h 38mn Bit rate : 2 092 Kbps Maximum bit rate : 15.5 Mbps Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 800 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.057 Stream size : 1.44 GiB (95%) Title : mkv.264#trackID=1:fps=23.976@GPAC0.5.1-DEV-rev4283 Writing library : x264 core 129 r2245 bc13772 Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=2092 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 Encoded date : UTC 2013-03-05 05:56:31 Tagged date : UTC 2013-03-05 05:57:00 Audio ID : 2 Format : AAC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Format profile : LC Codec ID : 40 Duration : 1h 38mn Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 96.0 Kbps Maximum bit rate : 153 Kbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel positions : Front: L R Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 67.4 MiB (4%) Language : English Encoded date : UTC 2013-03-05 03:17:38 Tagged date : UTC 2013-03-05 05:57:00

i keep looking forward any solution.
Thanks for answering.

Posted: **Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:56 pm**

Do you have hardsubs enabled? maybe the one that transcodes has a subtitle file.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:37 am**

Yes, but in both cases have subtitles files. I already tried that.
That's why i'm thinking only in the video file

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:25 pm**

So do you have subtitles enabled? try to disable them

Posted: **Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:00 am**

Yes.. you hit in the nail!
so, with subtitles it always transcode the movie, just to paste them.
There is any chance to configure the transcode so the video and audio are copied as is? i mean, with no decode and encode.

Posted: **Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:20 pm**

when it's transcoding with subtitles... it means that the device your playing it on doesn't support pulling subs from a source so they must be burned into the video.. in order to do this... the video has to be transcoded so that the resulting output can have the subs burned into the play back stream

it's very strange that two exact same movies are triggering transcoding differently due to the sub title file. here's an idea. switch the sub title files between the movies and rename them accordingly and see if the problem follows the subtitle file and not the movie itself.

If this turns out to be the case, post the file here so we can try to figure out why it's triggering a transcode.

Posted: **Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:58 pm**

Well... i don't know what i do, but now is transcoding allways with the subtitle.
So i'll paste the subtitles outside serviio and all solved.
Thanks for helping me

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