Re: samsung n series tv profile (i.e., nu 8000, 7100, 6900,
atc98092 wrote:can you tell me the file name? There's almost 3000 lines to go through in the log, and that would save time for searching.
file name is: us.2019.720p.bluray.x264-geckos.mkv
atc98092 wrote:can you tell me the file name? There's almost 3000 lines to go through in the log, and that would save time for searching.
atc98092 wrote:I wonder if it's transcoding because you have an external SRT file? I can't say for sure, but that might be causing it. However, it is calling for HLS transcoding, so trick play should be working. But maybe it's something specific on a Samsung set, because when my HLS files are transcoded on a Roku player, trick play works. But with the poor support that Samsung offers for DLNA, I wouldn't be surprised if it's something Samsung specific.
Yoongbo wrote:So it comes down to my Samsung TV. Yeah it seems the transcoding is somehow relates to the external srt and having Enabled burned-in subtitle. But with generic DLNA profile, even with the srt, that file isn't transcoded (i know because i still have trick play and the pc cpu usage is low). Can you make changes to the Roku 4K TV so that it won't transcode files with audio other than DTS even if i have an external srt (like what the generic DLNA profile does, but still transcode files with DTS audio) ?
atc98092 wrote:OK, uncovered something completely unexpected. I tested the NU7100 with the Roku TV profile, expecting trick play to work. Surprise, no FF. OK, that's what some of you had reported. However, when I changed the destination container to MPEGTS, voila, fast forward!
Now, don't expect to be able to FF a long ways into a movie after starting playback. It will only move forward as far as the video has been transcoded so far. That means at the beginning you probably can't FF much more than 30 seconds. But the longer the movie plays, and assuming a reasonably fast CPU in your Serviio computer, you should be able to get quite far after 4-5 minutes.
I found that the TV doesn't like VC-1 video, nor the WTV container. WMV videos also require transcoding. But again, fast forward works for all of them. However, resume isn't available for any video, even if transcoding isn't necessary. That seems to be a Samsung issue.
However, compared to my JU7100 it is playing videos from my server far better. My first choice is to still use either my Roku Ultra or Nvidia Shield for playback. The Samsung NU user interface is still just as lousy as it is in my JU series.
I will provide this profile to Zip for inclusion in the next Serviio release. In the meantime you can use this user profile file and select the Samsung TV (NU Series) profile.
Uran255 wrote:
when will the next release for synology ds214play including this new samsung NU profile be released?
atc98092 wrote:OK, uncovered something completely unexpected. I tested the NU7100 with the Roku TV profile, expecting trick play to work. Surprise, no FF. OK, that's what some of you had reported. However, when I changed the destination container to MPEGTS, voila, fast forward!
Now, don't expect to be able to FF a long ways into a movie after starting playback. It will only move forward as far as the video has been transcoded so far. That means at the beginning you probably can't FF much more than 30 seconds. But the longer the movie plays, and assuming a reasonably fast CPU in your Serviio computer, you should be able to get quite far after 4-5 minutes.
I found that the TV doesn't like VC-1 video, nor the WTV container. WMV videos also require transcoding. But again, fast forward works for all of them. However, resume isn't available for any video, even if transcoding isn't necessary. That seems to be a Samsung issue.
However, compared to my JU7100 it is playing videos from my server far better. My first choice is to still use either my Roku Ultra or Nvidia Shield for playback. The Samsung NU user interface is still just as lousy as it is in my JU series.
I will provide this profile to Zip for inclusion in the next Serviio release. In the meantime you can use this user profile file and select the Samsung TV (NU Series) profile.
MonaxDK wrote:Hi
I tried your profile on samsung UE55NU7402 - it does not transcode DTS sound track. The only profile that seems to work fine on my TV is "Roku TV (non 4k)". Also, unlike many other profiles that I tried, this one produces good quality sound when transcoding (mostly in other profiles the quality is just awful). Is it possible to make changes to the NU profile so that it transcodes DTS and produces good quality sound?
UPD
the Roku TV (non 4k) profile does not transcode the Xvid codec in old videos, so I can’t say that everything works with it.
General
Unique ID : 214349376391736190110962575645567139257 (0xA142303180CBD4A9B627C7C57F30BDB9)
Complete name : \\Storage\hdd2\Avengers - Age of Ultron.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4
File size : 13.3 GiB
Duration : 2 h 21 min
Overall bit rate : 13.4 Mb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2016-01-26 00:07:02
Writing application : mkvmerge v7.8.0 ('River Man') 64bit built on Mar 27 2015 16:31:37
Writing library : libebml v1.3.1 + libmatroska v1.4.2
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings : CABAC / 5 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 5 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=3
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2 h 21 min
Bit rate : 10.4 Mb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 804 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.281
Stream size : 10.3 GiB (77%)
Writing library : x264 core 146 r2538 121396c
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-3:-2 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=11 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=11 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=2 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=10400 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=62500 / vbv_bufsize=78125 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2 h 21 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 509 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : C L R Ls Rs LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.49 GiB (11%)
Language : Ukrainian
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2 h 21 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 509 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : C L R Ls Rs LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.49 GiB (11%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Text #1
ID : 4
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Duration : 2 h 20 min
Bit rate : 80 b/s
Count of elements : 1877
Stream size : 82.5 KiB (0%)
Language : Ukrainian
Default : No
Forced : No
Text #2
ID : 5
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Duration : 2 h 12 min
Bit rate : 61 b/s
Count of elements : 2156
Stream size : 59.8 KiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
General
Unique ID : 288597553071254291873204709478640482484 (0xD91DDDEF5DA109DBA6FBECC1E66978B4)
Complete name : D:\1\Wallace and Gromit-001.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4
File size : 13.0 MiB
Duration : 1 min 40 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 1 091 kb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2020-01-28 18:01:12
Writing application : mkvmerge v41.0.0 ('Smarra') 64-bit
Writing library : libebml v1.3.9 + libmatroska v1.5.2
Video
ID : 1
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Codec ID : V_MS/VFW/FOURCC / DIV3
Codec ID/Hint : DivX 3 Low
Duration : 1 min 40 s
Bit rate : 953 kb/s
Width : 480 pixels
Height : 352 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 29.292 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.193
Stream size : 11.4 MiB (87%)
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Audio
ID : 2
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 3
Format settings : Joint stereo
Codec ID : A_MPEG/L3
Codec ID/Hint : MP3
Duration : 1 min 40 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 134 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate : 38.281 FPS (1152 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 78.2 MiB
Writing library : LAME3.92
Encoding settings : -m j -V 4 -q 2 -lowpass 16 --abr 134
Default : Yes
Forced : No
General
Unique ID : 94697377685888783347227280952758019862 (0x473E0D315562E5EE8B3F3BDBD546A716)
Complete name : D:\2\Third planet-002.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4
File size : 26.9 MiB
Duration : 1 min 40 s
Overall bit rate : 2 246 kb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2020-01-28 18:02:13
Writing application : mkvmerge v41.0.0 ('Smarra') 64-bit
Writing library : libebml v1.3.9 + libmatroska v1.5.2
Video
ID : 1
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings : BVOP2
Format settings, BVOP : 2
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode : Packed bitstream
Codec ID : V_MS/VFW/FOURCC / XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 1 min 40 s
Bit rate : 1 797 kb/s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 544 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.183
Stream size : 21.5 MiB (80%)
Writing library : XviD 1.2.1 (UTC 2008-12-04)
Language : Russian
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1 min 40 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : 19 ms
Stream size : 5.37 MiB (20%)
Language : Russian
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : Yes
Forced : No
MonaxDK wrote:My files use the x.264 codec for video and DTS for the audio track in the MKV container.
I also noticed a bug (or is it a feature?) - the file names that I see on TV have a second extension, like Avengers.mkv.mkv. I can not understand why this happens.
This file plays perfectly on "Roku TV (non 4k)" profile and not plays on NU profile
Here is the file info
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General
Unique ID : 214349376391736190110962575645567139257 (0xA142303180CBD4A9B627C7C57F30BDB9)
Complete name : \\Storage\hdd2\Avengers - Age of Ultron.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4
File size : 13.3 GiB
Duration : 2 h 21 min
Overall bit rate : 13.4 Mb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2016-01-26 00:07:02
Writing application : mkvmerge v7.8.0 ('River Man') 64bit built on Mar 27 2015 16:31:37
Writing library : libebml v1.3.1 + libmatroska v1.4.2
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings : CABAC / 5 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 5 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=3
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2 h 21 min
Bit rate : 10.4 Mb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 804 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.281
Stream size : 10.3 GiB (77%)
Writing library : x264 core 146 r2538 121396c
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-3:-2 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=11 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=11 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=2 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=10400 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=62500 / vbv_bufsize=78125 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2 h 21 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 509 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : C L R Ls Rs LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.49 GiB (11%)
Language : Ukrainian
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2 h 21 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 509 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : C L R Ls Rs LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.49 GiB (11%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Text #1
ID : 4
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Duration : 2 h 20 min
Bit rate : 80 b/s
Count of elements : 1877
Stream size : 82.5 KiB (0%)
Language : Ukrainian
Default : No
Forced : No
Text #2
ID : 5
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Duration : 2 h 12 min
Bit rate : 61 b/s
Count of elements : 2156
Stream size : 59.8 KiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
And short sample of the file https://dropmefiles.com/ywWCu
Here are two files that do not play at all.
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General
Unique ID : 288597553071254291873204709478640482484 (0xD91DDDEF5DA109DBA6FBECC1E66978B4)
Complete name : D:\1\Wallace and Gromit-001.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4
File size : 13.0 MiB
Duration : 1 min 40 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 1 091 kb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2020-01-28 18:01:12
Writing application : mkvmerge v41.0.0 ('Smarra') 64-bit
Writing library : libebml v1.3.9 + libmatroska v1.5.2
Video
ID : 1
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Codec ID : V_MS/VFW/FOURCC / DIV3
Codec ID/Hint : DivX 3 Low
Duration : 1 min 40 s
Bit rate : 953 kb/s
Width : 480 pixels
Height : 352 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 29.292 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.193
Stream size : 11.4 MiB (87%)
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Audio
ID : 2
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 3
Format settings : Joint stereo
Codec ID : A_MPEG/L3
Codec ID/Hint : MP3
Duration : 1 min 40 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 134 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate : 38.281 FPS (1152 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 78.2 MiB
Writing library : LAME3.92
Encoding settings : -m j -V 4 -q 2 -lowpass 16 --abr 134
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Short sample file https://dropmefiles.com/2BIFA
- Code:
General
Unique ID : 94697377685888783347227280952758019862 (0x473E0D315562E5EE8B3F3BDBD546A716)
Complete name : D:\2\Third planet-002.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4
File size : 26.9 MiB
Duration : 1 min 40 s
Overall bit rate : 2 246 kb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2020-01-28 18:02:13
Writing application : mkvmerge v41.0.0 ('Smarra') 64-bit
Writing library : libebml v1.3.9 + libmatroska v1.5.2
Video
ID : 1
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings : BVOP2
Format settings, BVOP : 2
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode : Packed bitstream
Codec ID : V_MS/VFW/FOURCC / XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 1 min 40 s
Bit rate : 1 797 kb/s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 544 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.183
Stream size : 21.5 MiB (80%)
Writing library : XviD 1.2.1 (UTC 2008-12-04)
Language : Russian
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1 min 40 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : 19 ms
Stream size : 5.37 MiB (20%)
Language : Russian
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Short sample https://dropmefiles.com/acQpi
It would be great if the NU profile could play all this. It is also interesting why on Roku TV profile the sound quality (when transcoding from DTS) is noticeably better than on the others.
If you do not mind, you can post the corrected profile, and I could test it and write here about the results. Thank you
MonaxDK wrote:Hi
Any news on the profile?
atc98092 wrote:Zip has offered me a suggestion, so I'll look at it this evening and see what I can do. I'll download those samples you offered to test with. Fixing the DTS won't be an issue.
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