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jdegreef

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Post Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:42 pm

Re: Help with a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1

Bingo !

I don't know what in you message give me this idea :

I renamed my .avi to .mp4 and, of course, it didn't work :D
I then, using avidemux 2.6, copied the mp4 (video) and the mp3 (audio) from the avi container to a mp4 container (keeping the default "Use alternate mp3 flag checked but I don't know if that matters). it took a few seconds as the streams themselves are untouched. And it worked. The avi transformed in a mp4 is playing on the Galaxy Tab 2 !
Now I need a filter that does that on-the-fly :shock:
Or convert all my avi to mp4, it's fast but... :evil:
I have no clue as how to build filters (help needed here) but I'll keep searching as I feel we're close to find the solution now.

FYI when Allshare runs on the GT2 the Servioo server identifies it as "Unknown device" and profile "Samsung / Player (C/D/E-Series)"

I attach the usual ffmepg -i and serviio logs.

c:\temp\videos>ffmpeg -i "Holy.Motors.2012.FRENCH.DVDRiP.XviD.mp4"
ffmpeg version N-42368-gbf53863 Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the FFmpeg developers
built on Jul 10 2012 03:40:45 with gcc 4.6.3
configuration: --enable-static --disable-shared --disable-ffplay --disable-ffs
erver --enable-memalign-hack --enable-libmp3lame --enable-librtmp --extra-libs='
-lrtmp -lpolarssl -lws2_32 -lwinmm' --arch=x86 --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enab
le-pthreads --target-os=mingw32 --cross-prefix=i686-w64-mingw32- --pkg-config=pk
g-config
libavutil 51. 64.100 / 51. 64.100
libavcodec 54. 33.100 / 54. 33.100
libavformat 54. 15.102 / 54. 15.102
libavdevice 54. 1.100 / 54. 1.100
libavfilter 3. 1.100 / 3. 1.100
libswscale 2. 1.100 / 2. 1.100
libswresample 0. 15.100 / 0. 15.100
[mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2 @ 017BBEE0] multiple edit list entries, a/v desync migh
t occur, patch welcome
[mpeg4 @ 017BC9A0] Invalid and inefficient vfw-avi packed B frames detected
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'Holy.Motors.2012.FRENCH.DVDRiP.XviD.mp4
':
Metadata:
major_brand : isom
minor_version : 512
compatible_brands: isomiso2mp41
encoder : Lavf54.6.100
Duration: 01:55:30.36, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 846 kb/s
Stream #0:0(und): Video: mpeg4 (Advanced Simple Profile) (mp4v / 0x7634706D)
, yuv420p, 720x400 [SAR 1:1 DAR 9:5], 710 kb/s, 24 fps, 24.01 tbr, 23999 tbn, 24
.01 tbc
Metadata:
handler_name : VideoHandler
Stream #0:1(und): Audio: mp3 (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 128
kb/s
Metadata:
handler_name : SoundHandler
At least one output file must be specified
Attachments
serviio - same avi in a mp4 container.log
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jhb50

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Post Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:22 pm

Re: Help with a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1

You can only transform on the fly to mpeg, so if you want to use allshare which does not support allshare (duh!!) you will have to remux all your files to mp4. Personally I would trash allshare and use bubbleupnp or serviigo, both of which are free.
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jdegreef

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Post Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:33 pm

Re: Help with a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1

Too bad it's not possible to do it.

Afaik Serviigo need Serviio Pro which is not free.

And the free version of BubbleUpnp has limitations :

BubbleUPnP free version limitations:

- ads
- Internet streaming with BubbleUPnP Server is limited to 30 minutes per app launch
- Playlist and Library Shuffle are limited to 16 tracks
- downloads limited to batches of maximum 40 tracks
- the local renderer is remotely controllable by external Control Points for 30 mins per app launch
- the local Media Server is not browsable by filesystem (SD Card)
- playing media from external apps is limited to 3 plays per app launch

After paying 459€ (584.974 USD - IT stuffs are expensive in Belgium) I was looking for a full free solution ;)
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jdegreef

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Post Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:19 pm

Re: Help with a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1

jhb50 wrote:You can only transform on the fly to mpeg, so if you want to use allshare which does not support allshare (duh!!) you will have to remux all your files to mp4. Personally I would trash allshare and use bubbleupnp or serviigo, both of which are free.


What do you mean "allshare which does not support allshare (duh!!)" ?
it's actually Serviio (server) that's not compatible with Allshare (viewer on the Samsung Tab 2 tablet).

The real free solution is to stick to Allshare as server and viewer.

I used Serviio mainly for cosmetics reasons (its way of handling libraries) but it's not vital to me.

Serviigo need the paid (Pro) version of Serviio Server and cannot handle seeking. I cannot tel my childrens "don't seek, it will crash". The first thing they'll do is test seeking and be faced to a need for reboot of the tablet.
The free version of BubbleUpnp has such limitations that if you stream the beginning of 3 movies you need to restart it to stream a 4st one.

I spend hours debugging this to face a respond that is "it's not possible to repack .avi to .mp4 on the fly" which is something basic that ffmpeg can handle.

I'm a bit upset as you propose free solutions that actually are not free at all :cry:
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jhb50

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Post Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:48 am

Re: Help with a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1

duh! I meant mpeg. I think its wonderful that finally someone finds Allshare a satisfactory solution. Godspeed!
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jdegreef

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Post Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:52 pm

Re: Help with a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1

jhb50 wrote:duh! I meant mpeg. I think its wonderful that finally someone finds Allshare a satisfactory solution. Godspeed!


I didn't say satisfactory, I said free.
Anyway, Serviio free stoped working properly since I pass the 15 days where it acts as pro (see my other post).
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zip

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Post Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:05 pm

Re: Help with a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1

jdegreef wrote:The real free solution is to stick to Allshare as server and viewer.

If it works for you then great!

I used Serviio mainly for cosmetics reasons (its way of handling libraries) but it's not vital to me.

Fine.

Serviigo need the paid (Pro) version of Serviio Server and cannot handle seeking. I cannot tel my childrens "don't seek, it will crash". The first thing they'll do is test seeking and be faced to a need for reboot of the tablet.

The Android players are not made for streaming transcoded content, that's why seeking won't work. We will try to talk to some of them if we can come up with a solution. Regarding the price - it takes a lot of effort and time of a few people to bring you this solution and it's only fair we ask users to cover some (a small part, believe me) part of it. We can't give everything for free - there are no banners - unless you'd prefer your video being interrupted by ads :-)

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I spend hours debugging this to face a respond that is "it's not possible to repack .avi to .mp4 on the fly" which is something basic that ffmpeg can handle.

FFmpeg can handle it, off-line. The TV will not play the file unless it's completely transcoded, so you'd have to wait some time (possibly 10s of minutes) before you can watch the file - not mentioning the fact the TV would probably time out the request and fail.

I'm a bit upset as you propose free solutions that actually are not free at all :cry:

As per above. 95% of features of this product are free.
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jdegreef

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Post Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:06 pm

Re: Help with a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1

Hi,

A quick update as I've found a completely other solution to stream from a server (Win, Mac, Linux) to a Galaxy Tab2 10.1 (Androïd 4.0)
It's by using VLC from VideoLAN on the server and VLC Direct Pro Free (which is now completely free now as it's name suggest) on the GT2.
I can stream MKV, MPG, AVI well, all formats VLC supports and I even subtitles. It supports music and pictures too.

Here's the HowTo http://bit.ly/12poMd6
Here's the help for VLC Direct : http://vlcdirect.blogspot.be/

I hope you won't bother me giving a non Serviio solution here.
I still use Servioo to stream to my Samsung TV though ;)
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pefri

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Post Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:14 pm

Re: Help with a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1

zip wrote:...
The Android players are not made for streaming transcoded content, that's why seeking won't work. We will try to talk to some of them if we can come up with a solution...

May I ask you to talk to the BSplayer people? IMHO, it is THE player which plays most footage, video and audio, in HW mode.

I do not understand your statement and would like to understand the reasons. Please explain.

I love ServiiGo for my Android phone and app and would be happy to use ServiiGo as client for Serviio server AND to get the option to choose BSplayer as player for 'Original' AND for 'CUDA Transcoding to Medium or Low" media files, again VIDEO and AUDIO!
My dream is that delviery from server to client could be JIT (Just in Time) keeping player buffer(s) filled as transfer bandwidth allows. I would expect playing to start as soon as the buffers are filled, and then to get a continuous refill of th playing buffers as transcoding proceeds. I also expect to get the option for TLS as soon as playing starts and not only after transcoding has finished. If the player needs to know the filesize before it can activate TLS, then the Serviio server could give it an preliminary educated guess prediction value (extrapolated of change of bitrate by transcoding, etc.) and finally feed the real filesize to the player after transcoding has finished...
Of course, an option for CUDA HW transcoding on the server side would be phantastic!

Last, not least, I would appreciate Serviio to add a library category "Texts/Documents" and I wonder why DLNA uses restrictive library categories Video, Audio, Images and not simply offer "All" (File system) like CIFS does.

I really appreciate Serviio and ServiiGo and am very much interested in Time Line Search (TL J) seeking for ALL media, original and transcoded contents, video and audio!
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