Why is this being transcoded?

Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:31 am by atc98092

I have several Blu Ray rips that are being transcoded, while others play without it. The player is the Sony BDP-S3100, using the BDP-Sx90 (2012) profile. They have all been ripped with MakeMKV (different versions based on when they were ripped). This particular BD I ripped last night, so it with the latest version of MakeMKV. I am using the default ripping profile.

Code:: General Unique ID : 70654487944779830452214646280042648541 (0x35278F3516B77D52E3D5B29F0C9D13DD) Complete name : T:\Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008).mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 2 File size : 30.5 GiB Duration : 2h 2mn Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 35.6 Mbps Movie name : Indiana Jones IV Disc 1 Encoded date : UTC 2014-01-19 03:35:21 Writing application : MakeMKV v1.8.7 win(x64-release) Writing library : libmakemkv v1.8.7 (1.3.0/1.4.1) win(x64-release) Attachment : Yes Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.1 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 2h 2mn Bit rate mode : Variable Maximum bit rate : 37.0 Mbps Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Language : English Default : No Forced : No Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Audio #1 ID : 2 Format : TrueHD Codec ID : A_TRUEHD Duration : 2h 2mn Bit rate mode : Variable Maximum bit rate : 5 022 Kbps Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Bit depth : 24 bits Compression mode : Lossless Title : 5.1 Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Audio #2 ID : 3 Format : AC-3 Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 Mode extension : CM (complete main) Format settings, Endianness : Big Codec ID : A_AC3 Duration : 2h 2mn Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 640 Kbps Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Bit depth : 16 bits Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 561 MiB (2%) Title : 3/2+1 Language : English Default : No Forced : No Text #1 ID : 4 Format : PGS Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs Language : English Default : No Forced : No Text #2 ID : 6 Format : PGS Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs Language : English Default : No Forced : No Menu 00:00:00.000 : en:Chapter 01 00:07:21.482 : en:Chapter 02 00:13:11.499 : en:Chapter 03 00:21:44.970 : en:Chapter 04 00:27:39.157 : en:Chapter 05 00:36:58.507 : en:Chapter 06 00:46:34.917 : en:Chapter 07 00:55:37.459 : en:Chapter 08 01:05:46.525 : en:Chapter 09 01:12:08.073 : en:Chapter 10 01:21:52.949 : en:Chapter 11 01:29:14.098 : en:Chapter 12 01:36:04.258 : en:Chapter 13 01:44:23.298 : en:Chapter 14 01:51:09.245 : en:Chapter 15 01:55:55.031 : en:Chapter 16

Looking through the Serviio profile, the only line I can think that may cause a transcode is <Matches container="matroska" vCodec="vp8" />, but MediaInfo says it is AVC, not vp8. It's not the bit rate, because I have another BD rip (True Grit) in a M2TS container that isn't transcoded, and the Sony display shows a bit rate exceeding 40Mbps.

Any ideas?

Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:21 am by Illico

The first audio track is a TrueHD format not supported by this profile, so this line matched:

<Matches container="matroska" aCodec="truehd" />

Then first audio track was transcoded to AC3, then video was remuxed in mpegts stream.

Serviio does not deal with other audio tracks. There were an opened ticket about that : https://bitbucket.org/xnejp03/serviio/i ... ection-for

Could you comment this line, then restart serviio service (not server) or reboot PC and retry ?

Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:09 pm by atc98092

Illico wrote:The first audio track is a TrueHD format not supported by this profile, so this line matched:
<Matches container="matroska" aCodec="truehd" />

Then first audio track was transcoded to AC3, then video was remuxed in mpegts stream.

Serviio does not deal with other audio tracks. There were an opened ticket about that : https://bitbucket.org/xnejp03/serviio/i ... ection-for

Could you comment this line, then restart serviio service (not server) or reboot PC and retry ?

I'll do that and experiment later today. What puzzles me is that I have other MKV rips with either TrueHD or DTS Master Audio, and they both stream native. My -Sony BDP-S3100 shows the HD audio selected, and my AV receiver shows it is receiving and decoding the HD audio, so for some reason only some of the rips are being transcoded. Wouldn't that line catch them all? Also, the Sony will allow me to select different audio tracks for these files, so Serviio does seem to be sending them all.

Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:18 pm by atc98092

Illico wrote:The first audio track is a TrueHD format not supported by this profile, so this line matched:
<Matches container="matroska" aCodec="truehd" />

Then first audio track was transcoded to AC3, then video was remuxed in mpegts stream.

Could you comment this line, then restart serviio service (not server) or reboot PC and retry ?

OK, tried it, no good. For the file that was being transcoded, I now get an error saying unsupported audio. Tried playing other TrueHD files that used to work, now they don't either. Very strange. Why can I play some HD MKV files with TrueHD without transcoding, while others are being caught by this line? If this line was catching the TrueHD audio, then why will some play native and passthrough the bitstream audio while others are transcoded, leaving me without the ability to select the subtitle stream? I don't want to enable Serviio hard subs, because then everything is transcoded, correct? Plus, then I don't have the option is not displaying them.

Is there any container besides MKV that supports multiple audio tracks that I could try? Using a ripper other than MakeMKV? Rip with MakeMKV, then use something else to convert them to something else? MakeMKV is so fast and easy to use, but I'm not adverse to a more complicated program.

All my SD videos play perfectly from MKV, allowing subtitle selection if available. I'd just like my HD videos to do the same.

Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:19 am by DenyAll

Is there any container besides MKV that supports multiple audio tracks that I could try?

Transport stream (.ts, .mts) will support multiple audio tracks, but not very efficiently. In fact, many containers can be made to support multiple audio tracks (avi (divx), wmv, mp4) with the right muxing/encoding software, but the issue becomes whether the player will support them - probably not as this falls outside of the standard for most of those containers. If you were going to try anything then MP4 is probably the most likely to be supported, but bear in mind DTS and AC3 audio (including TrueHD) are not officially supported in MP4, so once again, its up to the player.

I don't want to enable Serviio hard subs, because then everything is transcoded, correct?

Correct.

...why will some play native and passthrough the bitstream audio while others are transcoded

As Illico stated, Serviio acts on the first audio track only. Is the first audio track for all of these files TrueHD in each case?

This may also be the key to assisting with your issue. Using a tool such as Handbrake, you could create a primary audio track in each file that is not matched by the profile (eg. AC3). Serviio will stream the file natively, and if your player supports it you can select the secondary track (TrueHD) when required. Given that you cannot play this audio when transcoding is off, it doesn't sound like it is supported?

However... the first thing i'd check is that your player is passing through audio to your AV unit correctly. This may have changed and would be why it used to work on some.

Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:52 am by Illico

DenyAll wrote:
...why will some play native and passthrough the bitstream audio while others are transcoded

As Illico stated, Serviio acts on the first audio track only. Is the first audio track for all of these files TrueHD in each case?
This may also be the key to assisting with your issue. Using a tool such as Handbrake, you could create a primary audio track in each file that is not matched by the profile (eg. AC3). Serviio will stream the file natively, and if your player supports it you can select the secondary track (TrueHD) when required. Given that you cannot play this audio when transcoding is off, it doesn't sound like it is supported?

I confirm that, it should be better to set in first audio track position a format supported natively by your device (AC-3), then other format in next position (TrueHD, DTS, etc).
With mkvtoolnix (mkvmerge) you can easily change audio track position.

Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:37 pm by atc98092

Illico wrote:
DenyAll wrote:
...why will some play native and passthrough the bitstream audio while others are transcoded

As Illico stated, Serviio acts on the first audio track only. Is the first audio track for all of these files TrueHD in each case?
This may also be the key to assisting with your issue. Using a tool such as Handbrake, you could create a primary audio track in each file that is not matched by the profile (eg. AC3). Serviio will stream the file natively, and if your player supports it you can select the secondary track (TrueHD) when required. Given that you cannot play this audio when transcoding is off, it doesn't sound like it is supported?

I confirm that, it should be better to set in first audio track position a format supported natively by your device (AC-3), then other format in next position (TrueHD, DTS, etc).
With mkvtoolnix (mkvmerge) you can easily change audio track position.

That makes sense. Using MedioInfo they all seem to have the HD audio as the first track, but who knows exactly how Serviio is seeing it. I'll try switching the first audio track to the SD version. The Sony does seem to support HD bitstream audio. My Yamaha receiver display shows it is receiving the bitstream, so that's a fairly good sign. When I display the information on the screen (the Sony display function) it will show Dolby TrueHD, but for DTS Master Audio it just says DTS. However, again the Yamaha is showing the MA bitstream is being received.

Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:14 pm by Illico

atc98092 wrote:...The Sony does seem to support HD bitstream audio...

If your Sony device support DTS or TrueHD in native format, you can comment this line in sony profile.
<Matches container="matroska" aCodec="truehd" />
Then your mkv file will be delivered in native.

Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:45 am by atc98092

Illico wrote:
atc98092 wrote:...The Sony does seem to support HD bitstream audio...

If your Sony device support DTS or TrueHD in native format, you can comment this line in sony profile.
<Matches container="matroska" aCodec="truehd" />
Then your mkv file will be delivered in native.

I tried that, but then I got the "unsupported audio" message. I'm trying mkvmerge right now to reorder the audio track and see if that resolves the transcoding issue. If that handles it, then I'll have to alter almost all my HD files. Rather do that than switch to SD versions. This Sony player (S3100) seems to handle high bitrate video without breaking a sweat. Also, I just found updated firmware for my computer's Blu-Ray player, and that might help with a few titles I've had trouble ripping.

Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:47 pm by atc98092

OK, I changed the audio track order so AC3 is the first, default flagged track. The Indiana Jones movie (info in the first post) is now listed as MKV instead of MPG, and now plays natively. Bitrate shows on average 35Mbps, and plays flawlessly. Definitely looks HD as well. Yippee!

What is strange is that I can select audio track 2 (TrueHD) and the Sony gives me the unsupported audio track error. But I have other MKV videos that have TrueHD as the first audio track, and it plays the bitstream, plus the Sony display even shows TrueHD as the selected audio. I'll find a file that plays TrueHD and post the MediaInfo data on it this evening. Maybe you can help me figure out why some will play and others won't.

Dan

One other question: since the video is now playing native, I have the caption option available. but when I choose either caption track, nothing displays. I have other videos that display this same behavior, and then others that the captions actually work. I'm wondering if it's the BD rips that this happens with, as I believe every DVD rip with captions works, to the best of my memory (for what that's worth!)

Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:04 am by atc98092

Weird... I've just gone through my collection, and now I can't find any HD video with TrueHD as the first track that isn't being transcoded into MPG and AC-3, just like the video in the first post. Just about everything is DTS-MA.

I did discover something that may be my best workaround. I discovered one of my HD files had FLAC as the 2nd audio track. I tried selecting it, and surprise, it plays! However, I seem to be back to square one. I re-ripped Indiana Jones, using the FLAC switch in MakeMKV. Rip successful, with FLAC as the only audio track, but I'm back to Serviio transcoding it again to MPG and AC-3. I see the line in the profile about <Matches container="matroska" aCodec="flac" />, so I am assuming this is what is catching it now.

So, does the Sony support FLAC or not? I can't comment the line out, because my wife is watching something and I can't restart the service. I'm moving it to my Serviio test box, but that will take a while, even on my gigabit network!

EDIT: After moving the file to my testing server, I commented the FLAC line in profiles and restarted the service. The file was now seen as an MKV, so transcoding was disabled. Started the video. Success! The Sony BDP-S3100 plays FLAC audio as the primary track without transcoding! :lol:

Looks like I'll be re-ripping my HD videos with this profile now. The DTS-MA seems to play ok as the first track, so that pretty much wraps up my issues. I have one last thing to test, which is to see what my Yamaha receiver does with FLAC audio. I'm testing on a small TV in my den with no AV receiver attached, so I'll give it a shot when I go to the bedroom. The wife is asleep, so I can experiment a bit before I go to sleep myself.

Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:16 am by Illico

So we have to build a "Sony BDP 2013 profile" for your Sony BDP-S3100 device.

Could you check format supported by your device (see my signature link) ?

Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:35 pm by atc98092

Illico wrote:So we have to build a "Sony BDP 2013 profile" for your Sony BDP-S3100 device.

Could you check format supported by your device (see my signature link) ?

Yep, I'll grab it out when I get home today. I've looked at the results before, but don't really understand everything it is telling me :lol:

I've replaced my SNP-N200 boxes with the S3100 player because it plays more natively via DLNA. Based on what I am seeing, it seems to be almost perfect. I watched about an hour of Indiana Jones last night, and both the picture quality and the FLAC audio were as good as if I was playing the BD disc itself. The only hiccup seems to be supporting the captions that are contained on BD video. I don't know if it's the player of Serviio, but the player knows there are caption tracks but nothing displays. All my captioned DVD rips can toggle the captions no problem. I understand it's two different formats, though.

Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:32 am by atc98092

Illico wrote:So we have to build a "Sony BDP 2013 profile" for your Sony BDP-S3100 device.

Could you check format supported by your device (see my signature link) ?

Here's what was supplied:

Code:: Sony BDP-S3100 http-get:*:image/jpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=JPEG_SM;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8cf00000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:image/jpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=JPEG_MED;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8cf00000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:image/jpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=JPEG_LRG;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8cf00000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:image/png:DLNA.ORG_PN=PNG_LRG;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8cf00000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:image/gif:DLNA.ORG_PN=GIF_LRG;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8cf00000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/L16:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MP3;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MP3X;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMABASE;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMAFULL;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ADTS;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ADTS_192;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ADTS_320;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ISO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ISO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ISO_192;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ISO_192;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ISO_320;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ISO_320;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_MULT5_ADTS;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_MULT5_ISO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_MULT5_ISO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAAC_L2_ADTS;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAAC_L2_ISO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAAC_L2_ISO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAAC_L2_ADTS_320;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAAC_L2_ISO_320;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAAC_L2_ISO_320;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAAC_L2_ISO_128;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAAC_L2_ISO_128;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, 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http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_SD_EU;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_SD_EU_T;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_SD_EU_ISO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_SD_KO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_SD_KO_T;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_SD_KO_ISO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_HD_NA;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_HD_NA_T;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_HD_NA_ISO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, 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http-get:*:video/x-ms-asf:DLNA.ORG_PN=VC1_ASF_AP_L2_WMA;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_MP4_BL_L31_HD_AAC;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_MP4_BL_L32_HD_AAC;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_MP4_BL_L3_SD_AAC;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_MP4_BL_L3L_SD_AAC;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_MP4_BL_L2_CIF30_AAC;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_MP4_BL_CIF15_AAC_350;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_MP4_BL_CIF15_AAC_520;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_MP4_MP_SD_AAC_LC;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_MP4_MP_HD_720p_AAC;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:image/jpeg:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8cf00000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:image/png:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8cf00000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:image/gif:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8cf00000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/L16:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/wav:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/x-wav:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/x-ms-asf:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/flac:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:audio/x-flac:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=9d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/x-xvid:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/x-msvideo:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/avi:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/x-matroska:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/x-mp2t-mphl-188:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/x-ms-wmv:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/x-ms-asf:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/mp4:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000, http-get:*:video/mpeg4:DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d700000000000000000000000000000

I personally have no interest in the audio or image settings, but I suppose for a good profile they should all be there. Thanks for the assistance!

Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:38 am by Illico

atc98092 wrote:I personally have no interest in the audio or image settings, but I suppose for a good profile they should all be there. Thanks for the assistance!

Yes.

I add this information here

On first look, I see some new formats supported:

http-get:*:audio/flac
http-get:*:audio/x-flac

http-get:*:audio/x-ms-asf

http-get:*:video/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_MP4_BL_CIF15_AAC_520 ==> A higher audio bitrate supported 520kbps

http-get:*:video/x-ms-asf ==> A better WMV support
http-get:*:video/x-ms-wmv

Nothing new about matroska, http-get:*:video/x-matroska still present.

I don't know if there were a specific mime-type for A_TRUEHD format.

Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:36 pm by atc98092

After I posted that last night, I realized that of course I care about the audio side. Wan't thinking that it applied to the audio side of the video. Silly me. I guess I was tired :lol:

That's really great that it now supports FLAC. This was my first rip using the FLAC setting in MakeMKV, and it sounds just fine. Since the Sony seems to do OK with DTS Master Audio as the default audio track, that means I only have to re-rip my Blu-Rays with TrueHD audio. With a FLAC audio track, the Yamaha AV receiver reports PCM audio.

Still wondering how some of my TrueHD rips were playing the bitstream, since the Yamaha display showed it was being received. I'm going to have to run through my different HD rips to try to find one that plays again.

Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:17 pm by Illico

With the Intel Spy tool, could you check the device description xml and post here ?
We will check if we can distinguish Upnp header from older 2012-2010 model.
It looks something like this :

Code:: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <root xmlns="urn:schemas-upnp-org:device-1-0" xmlns:pnpx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/windows/pnpx/2005/11" xmlns:df="http://schemas.microsoft.com/windows/2008/09/devicefoundation"> <specVersion> <major>1</major> <minor>0</minor> </specVersion> <device> <deviceType>urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1</deviceType> <friendlyName>BRAVIA KDL-46EX501</friendlyName> <manufacturer>Sony Corporation</manufacturer> <manufacturerURL>http://www.sony.net/</manufacturerURL> <modelName>KDL-46EX501</modelName> <UDN>uuid:00000000-0000-0000-00000000-0000000000</UDN> <dlna:X_DLNADOC xmlns:dlna="urn:schemas-dlna-org:device-1-0">DMR-1.50</dlna:X_DLNADOC> <iconList> ...

Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:29 am by atc98092

Illico wrote:With the Intel Spy tool, could you check the device description xml and post here ?
We will check if we can distinguish Upnp header from older 2012-2010 model.

Had to dig around for the location, I think this is it...

Code:: <?xml version="1.0"?> -<root xmlns="urn:schemas-upnp-org:device-1-0"> -<specVersion> <major>1</major> <minor>0</minor> </specVersion> -<device> <deviceType>urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:Basic:1</deviceType> <friendlyName>Blu-ray Disc Player</friendlyName> <manufacturer>Sony Corporation</manufacturer> <manufacturerURL>http://www.sony.net/</manufacturerURL> <modelDescription/> <modelName>Blu-ray Disc Player</modelName> <modelURL/> <UDN>uuid:00000003-0000-1010-8000-d8d43c5d8669</UDN> -<iconList> -<icon> <mimetype>image/jpeg</mimetype> <width>120</width> <height>120</height> <depth>24</depth> <url>/bdp_ax_device_icon_large.jpg</url> </icon> -<icon> <mimetype>image/png</mimetype> <width>120</width> <height>120</height> <depth>24</depth> <url>/bdp_ax_device_icon_large.png</url> </icon> -<icon> <mimetype>image/jpeg</mimetype> <width>48</width> <height>48</height> <depth>24</depth> <url>/bdp_ax_device_icon_small.jpg</url> </icon> -<icon> <mimetype>image/png</mimetype> <width>48</width> <height>48</height> <depth>24</depth> <url>/bdp_ax_device_icon_small.png</url> </icon> </iconList> -<serviceList> -<service> <serviceType>urn:schemas-sony-com:service:IRCC:1</serviceType> <serviceId>urn:schemas-sony-com:serviceId:IRCC</serviceId> <SCPDURL>/IRCCSCPD.xml</SCPDURL> <controlURL>/upnp/control/IRCC</controlURL> <eventSubURL/> </service> </serviceList> <presentationURL/> -<av:X_IRCC_DeviceInfo xmlns:av="urn:schemas-sony-com:av"> <av:X_IRCC_Version>1.0</av:X_IRCC_Version> -<av:X_IRCC_CategoryList> -<av:X_IRCC_Category> <av:X_CategoryInfo>AAMAABxa</av:X_CategoryInfo> </av:X_IRCC_Category> </av:X_IRCC_CategoryList> </av:X_IRCC_DeviceInfo> -<av:X_UNR_DeviceInfo xmlns:av="urn:schemas-sony-com:av"> <av:X_UNR_Version>1.3</av:X_UNR_Version> <av:X_CERS_ActionList_URL>http://10.0.0.29:50002/actionList</av:X_CERS_ActionList_URL> </av:X_UNR_DeviceInfo> -<av:X_RDIS_DeviceInfo xmlns:av="urn:schemas-sony-com:av"> <av:X_RDIS_Version>1.0</av:X_RDIS_Version> <av:X_RDIS_SESSION_CONTROL>false</av:X_RDIS_SESSION_CONTROL> <av:X_RDIS_ENTRY_PORT>50004</av:X_RDIS_ENTRY_PORT> </av:X_RDIS_DeviceInfo> </device> </root>

Doesn't look like there's anything specific in there. Maybe I looked in the wrong place...

Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:50 am by Illico

atc98092 wrote:...Doesn't look like there's anything specific in there. Maybe I looked in the wrong place...

Good place...but anything specific. You'll have to manually select the 2013 profile.

You can start with this :

Code:: <Profile id="bdp2013" name="Sony BDP-S3100 (2013)" extendsProfileId="1"> <DeviceDescription>  <ModelName>Windows Media Player Sharing</ModelName> <ModelNumber>3.0</ModelNumber> <Manufacturer>Microsoft Corporation</Manufacturer> </DeviceDescription> <ContentDirectoryMessageBuilder>org.serviio.upnp.service.contentdirectory.SonyDLNAMessageBuilder</ContentDirectoryMessageBuilder> <ContentDirectoryDefinitionFilter>org.serviio.upnp.service.contentdirectory.definition.WMPContentDirectoryDefinitionFilter</ContentDirectoryDefinitionFilter> <MediaFormatProfiles>  <MediaFormatProfile mime-type="audio/x-ms-wma" name="WMABASE">WMA_BASE</MediaFormatProfile> </MediaFormatProfiles> <H264LevelCheck>FILE_ATTRIBUTES</H264LevelCheck> <Transcoding>  <Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetACodec="ac3" forceVTranscoding="true" forceInheritance="true"> <Matches container="asf" vCodec="mpeg2video" /> <Matches container="asf" vCodec="mpeg1video" /> </Video>  <Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetVCodec="mpeg2video" maxVBitrate="17000" targetACodec="ac3" aBitrate="320" forceInheritance="true"> <Matches container="*" vCodec="h264" profile="high_10" /> <Matches container="*" vCodec="h264" profile="high_444" /> <Matches container="*" vCodec="h264" profile="high_422" /> <Matches container="*" vCodec="h264" profile="high" levelGreaterThan="4.2" /> <Matches container="*" vCodec="h264" profile="main" levelGreaterThan="4.2" /> <Matches container="matroska" vCodec="vp8" /> </Video>   <Video targetContainer="mpegts"> <Matches container="flv" vCodec="h264" /> </Video>  <Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetVCodec="mpeg2video" maxVBitrate="17000" targetACodec="ac3" aBitrate="320" forceInheritance="true">  <Matches container="flv" /> <Matches container="wtv" /> <Matches container="ogg" /> <Matches container="rm" />  <Matches container="avi" vCodec="dvvideo" /> <Matches container="mp4" vCodec="dvvideo" /> <Matches container="avi" vCodec="mjpeg" /> <Matches container="mp4" vCodec="mjpeg" /> </Video>   <Audio targetContainer="lpcm" forceInheritance="true">  <Matches container="ogg" /> <Matches container="mp2" /> <Matches container="wavpack" /> <Matches container="mpc" /> <Matches container="ape" /> </Audio>  </Transcoding> <OnlineTranscoding> <Video targetContainer="mpegts">  <Matches container="mp4" /> <Matches container="flv" vCodec="h264" /> <Matches container="applehttp" vCodec="h264" /> </Video> <Video targetContainer="mpeg" targetVCodec="mpeg2video" targetACodec="ac3" aBitrate="320" forceInheritance="true">   <Matches container="flv" /> </Video> </OnlineTranscoding> <HardSubsTranscoding> <Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetVCodec="mpeg2video" targetACodec="ac3" maxVBitrate="17000" aBitrate="320" /> </HardSubsTranscoding> <LimitImageResolution>false</LimitImageResolution> </Profile>

I comment some lines, then try with maximum sample format and feedback here result, we will update the profile.

Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:38 am by atc98092

Illico wrote:
atc98092 wrote:...Doesn't look like there's anything specific in there. Maybe I looked in the wrong place...

Good place...but anything specific. You'll have to manually select the 2013 profile.

You can start with this :

I comment some lines, then try with maximum sample format and feedback here result, we will update the profile.

OK, loaded this last night. So far, haven't seen any issues. All my DVD rips play flawlessly, and captions work if they exist. Many of my BD rips play fine, but I am having trouble with some of them. I've had nothing be trouble ripping the Star Wars and Star Trek BD discs. I read somewhere that transmuxing them from MKV to TS reduces some other overhead and makes them easier to play. I am assuming that a TS file isn't being transcoded, since it shows the captions option. That option isn't available with transcoded files. I've tried transmuxing a couple of files, and it did seem to help. Unfortunately, TSMuxer doesn't recognize FLAC audio, and so transcodes to AC-3. Not my desired result. Are you aware of any other transmuxing program (Windows based)?

I did find one file giving me an unsupported audio error. Here's the mediainfo on it:

Code:: General Unique ID : 252762512520024742549266210318537395687 (0xBE284A06EB7464B53FE455AB652B0DE7) Complete name : \\MEDIA-PC\Users\Media\Videos\Cars (2006).mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 2 File size : 25.5 GiB Duration : 1h 56mn Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 31.3 Mbps Movie name : CARS Encoded date : UTC 2013-06-09 03:29:46 Writing application : MakeMKV v1.8.3 win(x64-release) Writing library : libmakemkv v1.8.3 (1.2.0/1.1.0) win(x64-release) Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.1 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 1h 56mn Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 23.1 Mbps Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.464 Stream size : 18.8 GiB (74%) Language : English Default : No Forced : No Audio #1 ID : 2 Format : PCM Codec ID : 00001000-0000-0100-8000-00AA00389B71 Duration : 1h 56mn Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 6 912 Kbps Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Bit depth : 24 bits Stream size : 5.63 GiB (22%) Title : 3/2+1 Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Audio #2 ID : 3 Format : AC-3 Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 Mode extension : CM (complete main) Format settings, Endianness : Big Codec ID : A_AC3 Duration : 1h 56mn Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 640 Kbps Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Bit depth : 16 bits Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 534 MiB (2%) Title : 3/2+1 Language : English Default : No Forced : No Text #1 ID : 4 Format : PGS Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs Language : English Default : No Forced : No Text #2 ID : 6 Format : PGS Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs Language : English Default : No Forced : No Text #3 ID : 8 Format : PGS Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs Language : English Default : No Forced : No Menu 00:00:00.000 : en:Chapter 01 00:09:27.525 : en:Chapter 02 00:13:37.775 : en:Chapter 03 00:16:09.134 : en:Chapter 04 00:19:42.764 : en:Chapter 05 00:24:22.878 : en:Chapter 06 00:27:16.801 : en:Chapter 07 00:28:02.055 : en:Chapter 08 00:29:31.436 : en:Chapter 09 00:33:47.567 : en:Chapter 10 00:35:43.516 : en:Chapter 11 00:41:40.456 : en:Chapter 12 00:45:45.659 : en:Chapter 13 00:48:29.990 : en:Chapter 14 00:50:28.692 : en:Chapter 15 00:54:30.475 : en:Chapter 16 00:57:37.537 : en:Chapter 17 01:01:18.883 : en:Chapter 18 01:02:48.222 : en:Chapter 19 01:05:32.345 : en:Chapter 20 01:07:32.882 : en:Chapter 21 01:09:39.091 : en:Chapter 22 01:11:16.897 : en:Chapter 23 01:14:51.195 : en:Chapter 24 01:15:47.584 : en:Chapter 25 01:20:04.007 : en:Chapter 26 01:22:11.468 : en:Chapter 27 01:24:48.583 : en:Chapter 28 01:27:21.861 : en:Chapter 29 01:32:26.791 : en:Chapter 30 01:46:07.235 : en:Chapter 31 01:48:21.495 : en:Chapter 32

This is another BD rip. I didn't use the FLAC option when ripping it, so I may try it again. In the mean time, what doesn't it like about it? The Codec ID is kind of bizarre. Think that's the cause?

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