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sandokan

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Post Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:27 pm

New versions thumbsdown

When i first found your program it was the best program for streaming out there. Around 1.3. Basically almost anything worked.

Then i upgraded to 1.5, and suddenly some files that i was able to stream before on 1.4, i can't stream no more. Throws the known error the filetype is not supported. Now i checked the 1.6 version and you totally butchered the console and made it into something web based. I had to register to express my disappointment with how it went. How can a product get worse over time?!

Posting in LG because that's where i used it. 1.4x would stream almost anything. Same settings, same everything, 1.5 and 1.6 can't.

This for example plays on 1.4 and not on 1.5/1.6
  Code:
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 2
File size                                : 500 MiB
Duration                                 : 47mn 40s
Overall bit rate                         : 1 468 Kbps
Encoded date                             : UTC 2015-06-02 11:31:06
Writing application                      : mkvmerge v4.9.1 ('Ich will') built on Jul 11 2011 23:53:15
Writing library                          : libebml v1.2.1 + libmatroska v1.1.1
DURATION                                 : 00:46:44.079000000
NUMBER_OF_FRAMES                         : 884
NUMBER_OF_BYTES                          : 33925
_STATISTICS_WRITING_APP                  : mkvmerge v7.5.0 ('Glass Culture') 64bit built on Jan  4 2015 16:48:44
_STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC             : 2015-01-14 08:39:20
_STATISTICS_TAGS                         : BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 8 frames
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                                 : 47mn 40s
Bit rate                                 : 1 273 Kbps
Width                                    : 852 pixels
Height                                   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.125
Stream size                              : 425 MiB (85%)
Writing library                          : x264 core 146 r2538 121396c
Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=8 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=1273 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=10000 / vbv_bufsize=7500 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
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jhb50

DLNA master

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Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:32 pm

Post Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:51 pm

Re: New versions thumbsdown

In 1.4 what profile did you use in the console for your TV? You need to use the same one in 1.5 and 1.6.
If you used the LG profile in 1.4 you need to ensure that you have it selected in the 1.5 and 1.6 console.
If it was the generic profile you need to use that again in 1.5 and 1.6.

To be fair if you read the LG forums the opinion seem to be that LG has such a poor DLNA implementation that Serviio cannot overcome all its problems, but if you got it to work in 1.4 then 'the same files' will work in 1.6 with the same profile, because the LG profile has not been changed between 1.4 and 1.5 and 1.6, so that is not the problem.

Other new files are subject to the same LG problems that other posters have reported that usually trace to an LG firmware or implementation deficiency. You will need to report them with their ffmpeg and debug log to have others help you.
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sandokan

Serviio newbie

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Joined: Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:22 pm

Post Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:17 pm

Re: New versions thumbsdown

Yea, you would think that, but it does not. And yes, all settings are the same! Ofc i chose lg player profile on all.

Like i said, i used serviio at least 2 years without any problems. Only files it did not stream was some .ts containers. Since i have constantly same files i play (lots of cartoons for children and some tv shows i watch every few months again like survivor or star trek) nothing changed. I first noticed problems on 1.5 then i upgraded to 1.6 and same problem persists. I posted you above mediainfo from a file that i am currently watching normaly on 1.4.1, and that throws the error on 1.5 and 1.6.
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jhb50

DLNA master

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Post Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:13 pm

Re: New versions thumbsdown

Without a debug log to see what is really happening, I can only guess that the file is being transcoded which the LG will notlike. One way this can happen is if you have subtitles set on. Try turning them all off in the console and turn off transcoding in the console and see if that helps.
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sandokan

Serviio newbie

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Post Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:55 pm

Re: New versions thumbsdown

I have same settings in all versions. Transcoding is on, produce best quality is on, subtitles are on, audio downmix to stereo. I've solved the problem by downgrading but its a pity that the program supports less files as it progresses in versions which sounds stupid when you think about it, but its how it is. Hopefully the program coders will think about that in newer versions. I presume that the pro version wouldn't have these problems, is probably just how things work i guess.
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jhb50

DLNA master

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Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:32 pm

Post Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:03 pm

Re: New versions thumbsdown

Well reverting to 1.4 is one solution. Per the release notes, Subtitle settings were changed with 1.6 to support hard encoding so perhaps your settings really are not the same as before. As I suggested you might want to turn off any settings that trigger transcoding on a TV that will not accept transcoding.
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sandokan

Serviio newbie

Posts: 4

Joined: Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:22 pm

Post Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:06 pm

Re: New versions thumbsdown

So why did 1.5 fail then? :)

I mean at this point i might even get the detailed log while on 1.4, and the install 1.5 and get the log also to compare. But im not sure are you just a member or serviio developer seriously interested in this?
Also, not sure about your note with tv that doesnt accept transcoding when it does if it works on 1.4 and there never was a problem :) Im not talking about 1 file here man also.
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jhb50

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Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:32 pm

Post Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:16 am

Re: New versions thumbsdown

I don't see much point in continuing this dialog. If you don't wish to test 1.5 and 1.6 with settings the way I have suggested to see if it works, there is not much point in getting debug logs that show transcoding that we know will fail.

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