Iphone/Ipod/Ipad profile

[patters]

Done more testing and strangely FFmpeg seems to be able to transcode from DTS to AAC faster than from MP3 to AAC. Using an optimised compile of FFmpeg on my Atom Z520 powered VAIO I have found that it has enough grunt to do realtime AAC audio transcoding from a high def h264 mkv with dts to mpeg-ts container.
So the better NAS devices should be able to do this. The lower powered ARM ones won't.

I use buzz player on my iPhone which happily plays my divx etc from serviio (although it's not that happy with mp3s and pictures), it also has a nice option to copy the file off the dlna server so you can play it when you're out th house

[grolschie]

I am testing Media Link Player Lite - it's free. Audio and images work nicely with Serviio. Some videos will play, but not all. I am attempting to get a profile working, but no joy. The USER-AGENT is just: "Darwin/10.0.0d3 UPnP/1.0".

I haven't managed to install other apps because of the OS version on this iPod Touch.

[grolschie]

might not be helpful, but this is from the iPhone 4 spec page:
Video formats supported:

• H.264 video up to 720p, 30 frames per second, Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats
• MPEG-4 video, up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats
• Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file format

Can Serviio not transcode to H264/MP4?

http://www.serviio.org/index.php?option ... icle&id=24

Attributes:
targetContainer - compulsory; name of container to transcode into; possible values: asf, mpeg (MPEG2PS), mpegts (MPEG2TS)
targetVCodec - optional; name of video codec to transcode into or omit this attribute to keep the video stream as it is; possible values: mpeg2video (MPEG2), wmv2 (WMV9)

What can I transcode to that will play on the iPod please?

[Cerberus]

might not be helpful, but this is from the iPhone 4 spec page:
Video formats supported:

• H.264 video up to 720p, 30 frames per second, Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats
• MPEG-4 video, up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats
• Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file format

Can Serviio not transcode to H264/MP4?

http://www.serviio.org/index.php?option ... icle&id=24

Attributes:
targetContainer - compulsory; name of container to transcode into; possible values: asf, mpeg (MPEG2PS), mpegts (MPEG2TS)
targetVCodec - optional; name of video codec to transcode into or omit this attribute to keep the video stream as it is; possible values: mpeg2video (MPEG2), wmv2 (WMV9)

What can I transcode to that will play on the iPod please?

none of them at the current time, untill FFmpeg find a way to transcode to MP4 on the fly..

[grolschie]

Thanks for that info. I guess that's the end of it for now. Well, as far as transcoding on the fly goes.

[Cerberus]

Thanks for that info. I guess that's the end of it for now. Well, as far as transcoding on the fly goes.

yep ud have to manualy convert all your movie to MP4 before adding them to your library.

[grolschie]

Yes, thanks for that. I guess that also means youtube is out of the question via DLNA to the iPod Touch too.

[Cerberus]

Yes, thanks for that. I guess that also means youtube is out of the question via DLNA to the iPod Touch too.

dont know with out testing it sorry...

If Serviio can only transcode H.264 into m2ts/ts containers would it be possible to include a profile that transcodes the video within the profile of the iPad 2 (taking into account it's H.264 level and bitrate support) even if your using another player I find many of the third party media players with extra codecs on the app store have very poor performance even more so when trying to play over wireless.

Or would it be possible if there was a DLNA client on the app store which supported the TS container and was able to hand off video to the built in Quicktime player as a workaround. I know the Airplayer app has a toggle to enable Quicktime player but it just balks at whatever you try to play with it enabled (starts then jumps back to player UI).

[patters]

If Serviio can only transcode H.264 into m2ts/ts containers would it be possible to include a profile that transcodes the video within the profile of the iPad 2 (taking into account it's H.264 level and bitrate support) even if your using another player I find many of the third party media players with extra codecs on the app store have very poor performance even more so when trying to play over wireless.

iPad can play this natively in its QT player (as long as the audio is 2ch AAC) but only if it's been run through an applehttp stream segmenter first. FFmpeg doesn't include this (there's no muxer, only a demuxer for this format built-in). Until that happens we're a bit stuck.

Or would it be possible if there was a DLNA client on the app store which supported the TS container and was able to hand off video to the built in Quicktime player as a workaround. I know the Airplayer app has a toggle to enable Quicktime player but it just balks at whatever you try to play with it enabled (starts then jumps back to player UI).

Apple prevent 3rd party app access to their hardware video decode API. Apparently XBMC can do this, but you need to jailbreak your device to get it on there (XBMC is not allowed on the App Store). I don't like to do that as I've always found my iPhone 2G and 3Gs to be unstable once they're jailbroken and you inevitably end up loosing all your app saves etc when you reinstall. Go to update a package on Cydia and boom your phone won't boot and needs a DFU restore - that kind of thing. I'll leave that kind of tinkering to the Android handset users

Apple prevent 3rd party app access to their hardware video decode API. Apparently XBMC can do this, but you need to jailbreak your device to get it on there (XBMC is not allowed on the App Store). I don't like to do that as I've always found my iPhone 2G and 3Gs to be unstable once they're jailbroken and you inevitably end up loosing all your app saves etc when you reinstall. Go to update a package on Cydia and boom your phone won't boot and needs a DFU restore - that kind of thing. I'll leave that kind of tinkering to the Android handset users

I have been using iphone since 3GS. I have iphone 4, ipad 2 and ipod 4. All of the jailbroken. I have never had once need had my devices go into DFU. It's all about the kind of jailbreak that you use and the apps that you install.

Anyway, we are here to talk about using idevices with DLNA specifically serviio. I havene't done extensive testing on these devices yet but I uses airplayer and yxplayer 2. Both seems to be able to play from avi files no problems. First thing is trying to get subtitle to work. So far unsuccessful.

Has anyone tried using Serviio with the iPhone app iMediaControl (its not the Microsoft iMediaControl)? Its free and simple. Doesn't look like its been mentioned yet here, but I haven't been successful. I don't know too much about programming though. Here is their website in case it helps: http://www.sitecom.com/mobile/apple/imediacontrol/

Has anyone tried using Serviio with the iPhone app iMediaControl (its not the Microsoft iMediaControl)? Its free and simple. Doesn't look like its been mentioned yet here, but I haven't been successful. I don't know too much about programming though. Here is their website in case it helps: http://www.sitecom.com/mobile/apple/imediacontrol/

it is a good start. Very buggy and cannot play online streams. It looses the server connection often

Hellle Friends

Hello board Administrator!

I serched for months to get a good working solution for the Idad and serviio and I finally found it .

Download 8player on the Ipad and you can view the whole Content shared by serviio!!!
Finally. Pictures stored on PC and shared by servio can be viewed also.
maybe there is a Profile for the combination in the next Versions of serviio possible?

Best wishes...
PS: i have no Connection to 8player or something like this, I am just happy to find a solution for the Ipad, this was a hard work.

[Swoop]

Well, that's a little fast buddy

It's a great app but suffered over time. In my point of view, there are some performance issues while playing mpegts, build-in codec support is quite starving now (they removed ac3 support due to licensing for example).

Additionally, playback is stopping randomly since some time. Not sure if it is 8player or ffmpeg maybe but however annoying.

AcePlayer is more flexible here but not as slick and nice.

In the appstore there is a release note for Aceplayer version 2.6: "This version does not have ac3 audio decoder." Bummer.

My favourite still is Airplayer, which performs pretty well with its Quicktime plugin activated, but can get very choppy with ffmpeg plugin on.

[Swoop]

Yeah, I know. That's why I don't plan to update it

Just reworked my transcoding settings and see: 8player has AC3 support back in, so I have to revert on that one. But playback performance is still poor... Some more tweaking tonight.

[DenyAll]

I use 8Player on an iPad 2 and must say haven't been experiencing the issues that others have. Haven't used it extensively (am am still on the lite version for that reason) but it seems to play everything I have thrown at it, including mkv's. Sometimes I get an "Initalization Error" but selecting the video again fixes that. I only use it for video and photos so can't talk to audio streaming.

I use the following simple profile (which would love if others expand on):

  Code:

<Profile id="iPad" name="iPad 8Player" extendsProfileId="1">
   <Detection>
      <HttpHeaders>
         <User-Agent>.*8player.*</User-Agent>
      </HttpHeaders>   
   </Detection>
   <Transcoding>
      <Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetACodec="mp3" aBitrate="384">
         <Matches container="*" aCodec="ac3" />
      </Video>
   </Transcoding>
</Profile>

All this does is transcode AC3 audio to mp3 (@swoop - I thought I have the latest 8player, and it still doesn't support AC3??. Seems everyone is being hit up for AC3 licensing fees at the mo). It certainly is a nice looking app - I've tried some of the others listed and they are horrible, both to look at and to use (and all so far, haven't worked as well for me).

[Swoop]

Hi,

many thanks for sharing. I used a similar profile till yesterday. Interestingly, AC3 support seems to be available again since version 2.9 (latest by now).

On the other hand, I experience stuttering if I play larger files. Especially with .vob files and an xvid file with 2,2GB this is annoying... worked in older versions of 8player flawlessly in the past. And before u ask: yes, I'm using wifi BUT everythings ok on my TVs (in contrast to my iDevices). So bandwidth is not the issue here I'd say.

In AcePlayer, no stuttering at all.

Cheers