Iphone/Ipod/Ipad profile

[DenyAll]

I checked and I am also on ver 2.9 of 8Player (lite) and still no support for AC3 for me? If I turn off the AC3 conversion in the profile above the media fails to play ....unless its something else in the media I test that is causing it to fail (I tested quite a few, and they all fail if using AC3 audio. Would be a big co-incidence).

I haven't any files of that size to test with, but I wouldn't think size is the issue - it would be more bit rate when streaming. I have some mkv's that stream perfectly (they are transcoded as above as they have AC3 audio), typically 3-4Mbps bit rate. I also added some VOB files to my library from a DVD copy (didn't know Serviio supported them) and they also streamed fine (no stuttering, but seeking didn't work in 8Player).

But your point isn't lost on me - your stuttering files play fine in Aceplayer but not in 8Player. I couldn't reproduce it - it could be the buffer size that each app is allowing which could be allocated dynamically depending on how much free space you have (but I am speculating) - I have an iPad 2 16GB, with about 11GB free.

[Swoop]

Hi DenyAll,

many thanks for diving into that. Not sure how that behavior is to explain... Since I have the full version of 8player, I also checked the lite version. Works with ac3! I have even deleted my 8player profile and running generic now on my iPhone 4. Also, I've enabled downmix to stereo. Very strange!

Interestingly, refering to the stutters, that's only on .vob and .avi (Xvid) files... on my iPhone 4s, everything's fine and on my iPad as well. I also don't think it's related to file size any more. Wifi network speed is also not the issue. I guess it may be related to code amendments which cannot be handled by older HW as my iPhone 4 that well.

Anyhow, I'm 99,5% sure it is related to 8player. Guess I check back with them.

[DenyAll]

Thanks Swoop. I'm at a loss - I triple checked, no AC3 support for me. I also set to "downmix to stereo" - that didn't work (nor would it as it only comes into play if transcoding, but it was the only thing I could see in your environment that was different than mine). Maybe its a country thing? or maybe something else on your device is enabling AC3 (wouldn't think it works that way)? Who knows, some mysteries were never meant to be solved I suppose. Would be nice if I could get AC3 support as then I wouldn't need to transcode anything.

I also put 8Player on my old iPhone 3GS and yep, stutters like crazy on any higher bit rate file (mkv's) when they worked at all. Lower bit rate AVI's (divx) and MP4's though worked well (a slight delay on start-up but then good).

My verdict after all of this is that, for me at least, 8Player and Serviio are a good match (the AC3 issue for those that experience it is easily catered for by Serviio), but there may be constraints dependant on your iHardware.

[Swoop]

Hey DenyAll,

thanks for checking out. Obviously a mistery we need to live with. What I noticed is that mpeg decoding speed has become worse in general, at least on older iDevices. Kind of sad...

However, as I really like 8player, I'll stick to it as long as I can

Cheers

In AcePlayer, no stuttering at all.

I'm surprised that you can playing anything with AcePlayer. I've been trying to get AcePlayer to work with Serviio every few months for well over a year. Basically, all of the video files appear in AcePlayer with an icon that says "video" at the top and has a red background and although I have "Use QuickTime" set in AcePlayer, it appears to try to use its own built-in player instead of QuickTime. Can you please provide details about which version of AcePlayer you are using and also any special AcePlayer settings and/or Serviio profile you are using?

[Swoop]

Well, seems like I'm using version 2.5.1. 2.6 has no AC3 support any more.

Usually, I don't use a specific profile for AcePlayer, generic is fine. But what exactly is your issue?

Hi, I'm fairly new to Serviio and was wondering is someone could help me out with 8player and serviio? I have configured the profile that DenyAll mentioned earlier in this post to convert AC3 to MP3 to get around the licensing issue, but still most of my movie files are getting the codec error. I am able to see my ipad as an unrecognized device in the Serviio console and select the profile for it but it isn't working. How can I tell if the profile is actually being applied to a movie? I don't see anything in the log file when I try to play a movie file to debug this. Could someone give me some tips to help me figure this out so I can get around the AC3 issue and play my movies?

Thanks,
Brian

[DenyAll]

I have updated the profile for 8player in my previous post to add auto detection for the 8player. This will help you - amend your profiles.xml and then delete your iPad renderer (and press save). Start 8player and refresh - the ipad should be automatically detected by Serviio and the profile automatically selected.

Its a pretty safe bet after the above that the profile is being applied, however if you want to make sure then need to turn on detailed logging and check the log file after you try to play something. btw, make sure you have transcoding turned on in Serviio Console. If this doesn't fix your issue, post a MediaInfo output for the file you are trying to watch.

Since the new version 2.9.1 this morning I am seeing the stuttering that swoop experienced - I see it for any 720p file and above. Bugger - may have to look at limiting the bit rate or resolution... however the next release of Serviio will support MediaBrowser on the iPad, so this may all be a moot point.

Thanks DenyAll, that definitely cleared up the detection issue. I've also figured out that the issue seems to be with DTS, not AC3. It looks like my 8player is playing AC3 without any issue. If I try to play a mkv file with DTS, I get the encoder error in 8player. I tried two different files that are both H264 encoded and the AC3 file plays and the DTS file gives an error saying the encoder is unavailable. I thought I'd try changing your profile to convert DTS but when I change ac3 to dca, I get an error in Serviio. Even the same AC3 files that played get this error, so I'm guessing this is an invalid profile. Could you tell me what the correct way to convert DTS to MP3 is? I had not read there was a license issue with DTS but I'm guessing 8player had to remove support for DTS.

2013-06-12 07:50:04,807 WARN [ResourceDeliveryProcessor] Invalid request, sending back 500 error
org.serviio.dlna.UnsupportedDLNAMediaFileFormatException: No media description available for required version: AVC_TS_HD_DTS_T
at org.serviio.delivery.resource.AbstractDeliveryEngine.findMediaInfoForFileProfile(AbstractDeliveryEngine.java:290)
at org.serviio.delivery.resource.transcode.AbstractTranscodingDeliveryEngine.retrieveTranscodedMediaInfoForVersion(AbstractTranscodingDeliveryEngine.java:147)
at org.serviio.delivery.resource.AbstractDeliveryEngine.getMediaInfoForMediaItem(AbstractDeliveryEngine.java:122)
at org.serviio.delivery.MediaResourceRetrievalStrategy.retrieveResourceInfo(MediaResourceRetrievalStrategy.java:151)
at org.serviio.delivery.ResourceDeliveryProcessor.deliverContent(ResourceDeliveryProcessor.java:79)
at org.serviio.upnp.webserver.ResourceTransportRequestHandler.handleRequest(ResourceTransportRequestHandler.java:85)
at org.serviio.upnp.webserver.AbstractRequestHandler.handle(AbstractRequestHandler.java:61)
at org.apache.http.protocol.HttpService.doService(HttpService.java:293)
at org.serviio.upnp.webserver.ServiioHttpService.doService(ServiioHttpService.java:77)
at org.apache.http.protocol.HttpService.handleRequest(HttpService.java:212)
at org.serviio.upnp.webserver.WebServer$WorkerThread.run(WebServer.java:192)

[Swoop]

You might wanna try my 8player profile:

  Code:

<Profile id="30" name="8player" extendsProfileId="1">
                <Detection>
                        <HttpHeaders>
                                <User-Agent>.*8player.*</User-Agent>
                        </HttpHeaders>
                </Detection>
                <ProtocolInfo>DLNA</ProtocolInfo>
                <Transcoding>
                        <Video targetContainer="mpeg" targetVCodec="mpeg2video" maxVBitrate="700" maxHeight="288" targetACodec="mp3" aBitrate="384">
                                <Matches container="*" aCodec="dca"/>
                        </Video>
                </Transcoding>
        </Profile>

I've slightly modified it so that it should reflect your needs. Also, I use video transcoding to counteract the stuttering...

If you still encounter that errors, it might be due to missing codecs with ffmpeg.

Well, seems like I'm using version 2.5.1. 2.6 has no AC3 support any more.

Usually, I don't use a specific profile for AcePlayer, generic is fine. But what exactly is your issue?

My issue is that I have yet to see AcePlayer play a video using a Serviio server. I've had AcePlayer working with PS3 Media Server but not Serviio. What I see is an icon with the word "video" on red background at the top of the icon. When I click said icon, AcePlayer appears to try to play the video. 00:00 is displayed on one side -99:99 is displayed on the opposite side and in the center of the display, there is a spinning icon with a percentage amount that increases. The attempt to play the video appears to fail and AcePlayer displays the video file list.

Here's what I do know:
1) AcePlayer is able to play video files if I download a video file first therefore the observed behaviour is not a result of a video or audio encoding issue.
2) AcePlayer is able to play video files if I use PS3 Media Server instead of Serviio.
3) The problem has nothing to do with transcoding because of (1) and also, I have transcoding disabled on PS3 Media Server.

I really don't understand why this is happening but it seems like you have been able to use AcePlayer with Serviio somehow. Can you please provide any details that might help me find a solution to the problem? For starters, can you tell me if your video files are being played with QuickTime or with AcePlayer's built-in Video Player? What video, audio & container encoding/formats are your files in?

Thanks Swoop. I finally had a chance to test this tonight and it does clear up the errors so the files can start to play but they skip very badly. They skip almost identically whether I include maxVBitrate and maxHeight parameters or just let it go unaltered so I don't think it's a bandwidth issue or server CPU issue. Maybe this is just a problem with 8player. I hate that I already bought it if it is and there doesn't seem to be a trial of AirPlayer. Any thoughts on if this is an issue with 8player or something else? Also, I have an iPad 4 so I don't think it's a problem with that CPU either. The HD AC3 files seem to play ok.

Thanks

Never mind, I think I messed the profile up, it's playing well now, thanks swoop! The only issue I see is 8player won't let me skip forward on these files, but it will on others. That's better than not playing at all though.

[Swoop]

Glad I could help

Well, that seek "problem" is know and occurs because you're transcoding the file. Believe me, that can be very annoying at times and is no different with AcePlayer.

@cc2099: If you see that described loading screen from AcePlayer means, it is caching, not downloading. Also, if it doesn't display a proper file duration, it's usually a hint that the file you're trying to play is transcoded. Which profile has been assigned from Serviio to the device you're using for playback? Also, you may consider having a look at the Serviio log file for further hints.

Handbrake suggests encoding AAC as the first track with AC3 pass-through as a second track so as to work with apple devices and still have 5.1 on devices that support it. https://trac.handbrake.fr/wiki/SurroundSoundGuide
Obviously that doesn't mesh very well with serviio's 'only send the 1st track' limitation. Is there a better approach to get any sound to an ipad. Or is it best to just find an app that decodes ac3? The dlna app reviews seem somewhat mixed.

@cc2099: If you see that described loading screen from AcePlayer means, it is caching, not downloading. Also, if it doesn't display a proper file duration, it's usually a hint that the file you're trying to play is transcoded. Which profile has been assigned from Serviio to the device you're using for playback? Also, you may consider having a look at the Serviio log file for further hints.

Please re-read the post - I never said anything about the AcePlayer "loading screen" being a download. What I said was that I can play a file if I first download it using AcePlayer. If I try to stream a file using AcePlayer, it always fails - the "loading screen" crashes.

The developer of AcePlayer claims that Quicktime can't cope with Serviio's URL or some such nonsense.

Hi to all!

Can you help me to make a profile for nplayer in iOS? I can watch anything, I think the only problem is the DTS audio which is not supported by nplayer. I need a profile that automatically detects nPlayer and transcode the DTS audio into AC3 or MP3, and If it is possible, resizes the HD video (but this is not important). I need this profile and your help too. Thanks.

[Iveky]

tonite when i come home, i can post you mine profile for lg android phone.
i modified roku profile, with maxheight setting settled to be height of phone display resolution

Sent from my LG-E440 using Tapatalk 2

[Iveky]

  Code:

<Profile id="LGandroid" name="LG Android Phone" extendsProfileId="1">
      <Detection>
         <HttpHeaders>
            <User-Agent>(.*PHONE.*)|(.*ANDROID.*)</User-Agent>
         </HttpHeaders>
      </Detection>
      <DeviceDescription>
         <ModelName>LG Android</ModelName>
         <Manufacturer>LG</Manufacturer>
      </DeviceDescription>
      <MediaFormatProfiles>
         <MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/mp4">AVC_MP4_MP_SD_AAC_MULT5</MediaFormatProfile>
         <MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/mp4">AVC_MP4_MP_SD_MPEG1_L3</MediaFormatProfile>
         <MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/mp4">AVC_MP4_MP_SD_AC3</MediaFormatProfile>
         <MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/mp4">AVC_MP4_MP_HD_720p_AAC</MediaFormatProfile>
         <MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/mp4">AVC_MP4_MP_HD_1080i_AAC</MediaFormatProfile>
         <MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/mp4">AVC_MP4_HP_HD_AAC</MediaFormatProfile>
         <MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/mp4">AVC_MP4_LPCM</MediaFormatProfile>
         <MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/mp4">MPEG4_P2_MP4_ASP_AAC</MediaFormatProfile>
         <MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/mp4">MPEG4_P2_MP4_SP_L6_AAC</MediaFormatProfile>
         <MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/mp4">MPEG4_P2_MP4_NDSD</MediaFormatProfile>
         <MediaFormatProfile mime-type="audio/mpeg">MP3</MediaFormatProfile>
      </MediaFormatProfiles>
      <Transcoding>
         <!-- You may have to limit video rate if Roku rebuffers <Video targetContainer="applehttp" targetVCodec="h264" maxVBitrate="2000" targetACodec="aac"> -->
         <Video targetContainer="applehttp" targetVCodec="h264" maxVBitrate="1024" forceVTranscoding="true" targetACodec="aac" forceStereo="true" aBitrate="192" DAR="16:9" maxHeight="320">
            <Matches container="asf" />
            <Matches container="mpegvideo" />
            <Matches container="mpeg" />
            <Matches container="mpegts" />
            <Matches container="matroska" />
            <Matches container="avi" />
            <Matches container="flv" />
            <Matches container="wtv" />
            <Matches container="ogg" />
            <Matches container="3gp" />
            <Matches container="rtp" />
            <Matches container="rtsp" />
            <Matches container="rm" />
         </Video>
         <Audio targetContainer="mp3">
            <Matches container="*" />
            <!-- Convert everything to mp3 -->
         </Audio>
      </Transcoding>
      <OnlineTranscoding>
         <!--rem <Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetVCodec="mpeg2video" maxVBitrate="17000" targetACodec="ac3" aBitrate="384" DAR="16:9" forceInheritance="true"> -->
         <Video targetContainer="applehttp" targetVCodec="h264" maxVBitrate="1024" forceVTranscoding="true" targetACodec="aac" forceStereo="true" aBitrate="192" DAR="16:9" maxHeight="320">
            <!--Matches container="*" /-->
            <!--Matches container="mp4"/-->
            <Matches container="rtp"/>
            <Matches container="rtsp"/>
            <Matches container="applehttp"/>
            <Matches container="asf"/>
            <Matches container="flv"/>
         </Video>
      </OnlineTranscoding>
      <AutomaticImageRotation>true</AutomaticImageRotation>
   </Profile>

I just upgraded my Ipad to Air from original so was able to get latest update of 8player. It won't play DST or AC3. I also downloaded MoliPlayer for IPad, which by the way ain't half bad (free). I get same errors with Moli, only their message says that they are trying to correct copyright issues with Dolby. There is a thread on the apple forums regarding this Dolby issue, but I do not have the link.

So would the above profile help my situation?

Thanks