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Illico

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Post Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:34 pm

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

SeeR wrote:Conntinuing divx path...
on generic profile serviio send following info to kdl-40ex700...
How can I force serviio to send video/x-divx:* or video/divx:* instead of video/x-msvideo:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVI ?


Not sure to understand you, do you have a 40EX700, this is an 2010 model and did not support DIVX formats, must be transcoded to mpeg2video.
So USE the Sony Bravia Profile included with serviio 0.5.2.

Do you read this topic from beginning, we are talking about 2011 models?
With 2011 Sony bravia models, you could try this new profile :http://forum.serviio.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2079&start=20#p11844
But for AVI files you have to modify this line
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/avi" name="AVI">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>
by something like:
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/avi">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>
or
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/x-msvideo">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>
or
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/x-divx">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>
or
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/divx">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>
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Post Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:14 pm

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

Illico wrote:Not sure to understand you, do you have a 40EX700, this is an 2010 model and did not support DIVX formats, must be transcoded to mpeg2video.
So USE the Sony Bravia Profile included with serviio 0.5.2.
Do you read this topic from beginning, we are talking about 2011 models?


I saw that bravia 2011 series reports video/x-divx:* or video/divx:* through DLNA but it suports it from USB since 2010 series. So my idea was that:
1. Force serviio to report divx file as video/x-divx:* or video/divx:* and test it on my ex700. Who knows maybe they just don't report it in GetProtocolInfo().
2. If it fails - ask NX3 to test it on his 2011 bravia. Otherwise probably we can assume that 2011 series can play divx without transcoding also.

So shortly
- It's rather compare 2010 vs 2011 series question
- I want/hope NX3 to do the same on his 2011 TV

Illico wrote:With 2011 Sony bravia models, you could try this new profile :http://forum.serviio.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2079&start=20#p11844
But for AVI files you have to modify this line
...
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/x-divx">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>
or
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/divx">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>


I want to achieve the following: "For each .divx file report video/divx:* instead of video/x-msvideo:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVI". I'm not sure your proposition will give me this but I'll check it.
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Post Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:37 am

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

SeeR wrote:I want to achieve the following: "For each .divx file report video/divx:* instead of video/x-msvideo:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVI". I'm not sure your proposition will give me this but I'll check it.

You can only do that for the whole profile, not a particular file type. Add
  Code:
<ProtocolInfo>simple</ProtocolInfo>

to the profile (similar to XBox360 profile)
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Post Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:44 pm

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

Illico wrote:With 2011 Sony bravia models, you could try this new profile :http://forum.serviio.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2079&start=20#p11844
But for AVI files you have to modify this line
...
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/x-divx">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>
or
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/divx">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>


I've tried following
  Code:
<Profile id="14" name="SONY TEST" extendsProfileId="1">
      <Detection>
         <UPnPSearch>
            <FriendlyName>BRAVIA.*</FriendlyName>
         </UPnPSearch>
      </Detection>
      <MediaFormatProfiles>
         <MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/divx">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>
      </MediaFormatProfiles>
      <AutomaticImageRotation>true</AutomaticImageRotation>
   </Profile>

and serviio sent following to TV
  Code:
<item id="V_F#FOL_R3$F590$MI16062" parentID="V_F#FOL_R3$F590" restricted="1">
<dc:title>percy.divx</dc:title>
<upnp:class>object.item.videoItem</upnp:class>
<dc:date>2006-10-27</dc:date>
<upnp:genre>Drama</upnp:genre>
<res bitrate="160875" duration="0:04:27.000" protocolInfo="http-get:*:video/divx:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVI;DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_CI=0;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01500000000000000000000000000000" resolution="720x320" size="42985390">http://192.168.1.15:8895/resource/16062/MEDIA_ITEM/AVI$0</res>
<res protocolInfo="http-get:*:image/jpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=JPEG_TN;DLNA.ORG_OP=00;DLNA.ORG_CI=1;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=00D00000000000000000000000000000" resolution="106x160">http://192.168.1.15:8895/resource/12276/COVER_IMAGE</res>
</item>


TV rejected the file.

zip wrote:You can only do that for the whole profile, not a particular file type. Add
  Code:
<ProtocolInfo>simple</ProtocolInfo>

to the profile (similar to XBox360 profile)


When added it to the profile above TV was unable to connect to the server.

Still don't know how to sent protocolInfo="http-get:*:video/divx:*" (whatever sense it has :-))

NX3, can you try the profile above with some divx file?
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Post Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:30 am

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

As a test, change the line:
  Code:
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/divx">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>
to
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/mpeg">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>


Can you now see and play the AVI files? If you get any divx restriction warning then these files will need to be transcoded to mpeg2video.
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Post Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:39 am

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

pizzaguy541 wrote:As a test, change the line:
  Code:
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/divx">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>
to
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/mpeg">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>


Can you now see and play the AVI files? If you get any divx restriction warning then these files will need to be transcoded to mpeg2video.


But then I will loose muxed subtitles
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Post Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:10 am

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

SeeR wrote:
pizzaguy541 wrote:As a test, change the line:
  Code:
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/divx">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>
to
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/mpeg">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>


Can you now see and play the AVI files? If you get any divx restriction warning then these files will need to be transcoded to mpeg2video.


But then I will loose muxed subtitles

Looks like it's the only way until 0.6
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Post Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:19 am

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

zip wrote:
SeeR wrote:
pizzaguy541 wrote:As a test, change the line:
  Code:
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/divx">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>
to
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/mpeg">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>


Can you now see and play the AVI files? If you get any divx restriction warning then these files will need to be transcoded to mpeg2video.


But then I will loose muxed subtitles

Looks like it's the only way until 0.6


Uhh, I just found that NX3 already tested this MediaFormatProfile and you told him to wait for 0.6 version.

In the mean time lets try the other way.
Anyone tested mpeg transport stream with DVB subtitles?
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Post Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:06 pm

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

SeeR wrote:...Anyone tested mpeg transport stream with DVB subtitles?

Yes with 2010 models without success. I use these samples :http://forum.serviio.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=608#p9316
For DivX, you can check with that (embedded DXSA subtitles) : http://showcase7.divx.com/mobile/Sintel ... p_ASP.divx
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Post Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:34 pm

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

Illico wrote:
SeeR wrote:...Anyone tested mpeg transport stream with DVB subtitles?

Yes with 2010 models without success. I use these samples :http://forum.serviio.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=608#p9316
For DivX, you can check with that (embedded DXSA subtitles) : http://showcase7.divx.com/mobile/Sintel ... p_ASP.divx


So now we need NX3 to test this mpeg ts file on his 2011 TV.

Another way :)
Did I understood correctly (from earlier NX3 posts) that .mkv is working without transcoding on 2011 series?
If so a confirmation about muxed mkv subtitles status would be nice.
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Post Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:23 pm

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

I'm back, the sun was distracting me..... catch up on all the posts ?!!

Some of these downloads are cripplingly slow ! I'll leave them overnight and try tomorrow hopefully.
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Post Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:16 am

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

SeeR wrote:
pizzaguy541 wrote:As a test, change the line:
  Code:
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/divx">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>
to
<MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/mpeg">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>


Can you now see and play the AVI files? If you get any divx restriction warning then these files will need to be transcoded to mpeg2video.


But then I will loose muxed subtitles
Having subtitles is irrelevant when you can't get the AVI files to play. ;)

Keep trying different configurations until you get something that works and then post your results.
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Post Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:36 pm

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

Ok some results;

.ts files are listed but don't play, I did mention this before but as I only had one (now 2) I wasn't bothered.

AVC (mkv) with embedded subtitles, video plays, no subtitles and set reports "feature not available with current input mode"
photo of message; http://www.flickr.com/photos/57274735@N ... 360041201/

Subtitles (SRT) from USB with a AVI do work but they look pretty bad to me ! example;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57274735@N ... 360041201/

As stated about from pages many times, avi's do not currently work no matter what I put in the profile and we have to wait for beta 0.6 from zip (fingers crossed I'm a beta tester ;-) ! )
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Post Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:09 pm

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

Sony UK DLNA format and server list is out;

http://support.sony-europe.com/tutorial ... DL-26EX320

they list PMS ?!?!? I'm stunned.... they should list Serviio once 0.6 is out as it will have better support for the set than anything else they list.
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Post Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:02 am

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

NX3 wrote:Ok some results;

.ts files are listed but don't play, I did mention this before but as I only had one (now 2) I wasn't bothered.

AVC (mkv) with embedded subtitles, video plays, no subtitles and set reports "feature not available with current input mode"
photo of message; http://www.flickr.com/photos/57274735@N ... 360041201/

Subtitles (SRT) from USB with a AVI do work but they look pretty bad to me ! example;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57274735@N ... 360041201/

As stated about from pages many times, avi's do not currently work no matter what I put in the profile and we have to wait for beta 0.6 from zip (fingers crossed I'm a beta tester ;-) ! )


Uhh, that's depressing.
Almost nothing changed from 2010.
They didn't even changed the font for AVI subtitles - seems to me like this part of code was never touched from 2010.
Shame SONY, shame...

I still have small hope (but smaller every day :( )
1. In 2010 series .ts was not even listed, but somehow they are played when serviio transcodes/remux them to mpeg2ts
  Code:
<Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetVCodec="mpeg2video" maxVBitrate="17000" targetACodec="ac3" aBitrate="384">

So maybe .ts samples wa have, have something wrong (on my ex700 none played also).
@zip can you provide us with exact ffmpeg command line when something is transcoded/remuxed to mpeg2ts
2. As you wrote - hope that divx will start working with 0.6

@NX3 - Thank you for your time.
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Post Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:01 am

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

SeeR wrote:1. In 2010 series .ts was not even listed...

Not sure to understand you.
"ts" files are listed on my EX500 2010 model and are delivered in native format without transcode or remux (only for audio).

SeeR wrote:@zip can you provide us with exact ffmpeg command line when something is transcoded/remuxed to mpeg2ts

Enable detailed logging file (see signature), find the ffmpeg command line (with all options) when you start the transcoded/remuxed movie.
If you execute this same command line locally, you can create a ".ts" file that could be added to the Serviio library and next could be delivered in native MPEGTS format.
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Post Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:19 am

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

Illico wrote:Not sure to understand you.
"ts" files are listed on my EX500 2010 model and are delivered in native format without transcode or remux (only for audio).


Uhh, my fault
My testing procedure worked always like this
1. Test the file on USB
2. If it works on USB test it on serviio

and .ts files are not even listed on USB.
Seems like I've made wrong assumptions - that if something will not work on USB for sure will not work on DLNA without transcoding
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Post Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:50 pm

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

New firmware today and one new feature of interest here;

New feature: Skype™
New feature: Twitter
New feature: Facebook
New feature: What's New
Media Remote (Software keyboard, Full / Simple Remote and Shake Track ID)
VAIO Remote Keyboard
Media Remote (text by voice)
USB HDD Recording
Audio Theatre Control Widget
WMV/WMA Codec for DLNA / USB <<<<<<<<<<<<< I've not tested this at all but interesting
3D on IPTV and USB
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Post Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:55 pm

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

NX3 wrote:New firmware today and one new feature of interest here;

New feature: Skype™
New feature: Twitter
New feature: Facebook
New feature: What's New
Media Remote (Software keyboard, Full / Simple Remote and Shake Track ID)
VAIO Remote Keyboard
Media Remote (text by voice)
USB HDD Recording
Audio Theatre Control Widget
WMV/WMA Codec for DLNA / USB <<<<<<<<<<<<< I've not tested this at all but interesting
3D on IPTV and USB


Skype on ya TV now that sounds more intresting to me but wouldnt u need a webcam and mic for that to be useful LOLOLOL.
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Post Mon May 16, 2011 8:07 am

Re: Sony Bravia 2011 Series

Interesting link about Codecs and formats supported over USB and DNLA for 2010 and 2011 Sony devices : Codecs and formats
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