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Larzendk

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Post Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:57 am

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

I discovert i little funny thing last night. It looks like that most of the streams in the adult folder is running almost every time i try, also the HD stream.

Ehhh, ofcourse i am only using this folder for test :oops:

But what makes these streams diffrent so that there almost never is a problem with them?

Mabye someone will look at it and see if they can spot a diffrent

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Post Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:30 pm

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

I am not sure if we were looking in the correct area.
From what I have reading, it seems that we have to modify the OnlineTranscoding section on the General profile section, online transcoding is inherited for SMP from the general profile.

Edit:
This is the online section that is being used for UK Sky News HD:
<Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetACodec="ac3" aBitrate="384">
<Matches container="mp4"/>
<Matches container="flv" vCodec="h264"/>
<Matches container="applehttp" vCodec="h264"/>

I found out by changing the aBitrate to 320, it chagend on the device once it connected.
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Post Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:39 pm

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

I will look at that in the first parent profile which gets inherited from other profiles. I got really frustrated the other day with this problem and pouring over all the files associated with it so I just took a few days break from it to clear my mind.

I am also looking at the Serviio Wiki transcoding reference section here http://www.serviio.org/index.php?option ... icle&id=24

:idea: Please give me the live Skynews link you're using. Then, I will add it to Serviio console and we can work on this with the same exact live stream.
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Post Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:42 pm

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

It's the one that jhb50 has set up under international news under online resources/video stream/the livestream library-a set of rss folders on the board index.
The link is the below

INternational_News - all in English or French - various resolutions.
Featuring BBC News, BBC World News, CNN International, UK Sky News, China CCTV News, EuroNews, France 24 News, France BFM News, India News-X, India Times News, Japan NHK News, Russia Today, Iran Press TV, and Al Jazerra.

https://sites.google.com/site/serviiors ... N_News.rss
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Post Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:24 am

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

I've got it working now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (thanks to all on this thread who helped lead me to this fix)

I don't really know if this is the correct way to fix this problem, but it sure seems to work on most of the live streams I've tested.

Please realize that most live streams aren't working all the time so you may get some streams that won't play at all. If you get one that doesn't play with this fix, please test it with XBMC or ffmpeg as a reference.

Note: It may take up to 60 seconds before the live stream starts working. Please be patient.
Also, the Sony SMP-N100 OSD (on screen display) will now show MPEG instead of M2TS on most live streams.

Some of the coding is obviously redundant as I copied it directly from the Generic profile, but, for now, I just left it as is.

Feel free to improve or revise this code as needed.

Here's how to fix Sony SMP-N100 from not working with live streams:

1. Open profiles.xml file in Notepad or a suitable text editor.
2. Copy the new code below to the Sony BD / SMP profile 10 and add it right after the last line that says "</Transcoding>" and before the final line in Sony BD / SMP profile that says "</Profile>".
3. Save the profiles.xml file, stop serviio service (not just the console), then start serviio service.

  Code:
<!--031312 - Fixed Live Streaming problem on Sony SMP-N100 which was causing it to reboot most every time by commenting out a line below -->
<!--031312 - Copied the Online Transcoding section from main Generic profile and commented out 1 line as shown below -->      
      <OnlineTranscoding>
         <Video targetContainer="mpeg" targetVCodec="mpeg2video" targetACodec="ac3" aBitrate="384" forceInheritance="true">
            <Matches container="rtp"/>
            <Matches container="rtsp"/>
            <Matches container="applehttp"/>
         </Video>
         <Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetACodec="ac3" aBitrate="384">
            <Matches container="mp4"/>
            <!-- 031312 - Next line commented out - fixes Sony SMP-N100 rebooting on live streams -->
            <!-- Matches container="flv" vCodec="h264" -->            
         </Video>
         <Video targetContainer="mpeg" targetVCodec="mpeg2video" targetACodec="ac3" aBitrate="384">
            <Matches container="asf"/> <!-- to support mms:// streams -->
            <Matches container="flv"/>
         </Video>
         <Audio targetContainer="mp3" aBitrate="384" forceInheritance="true">
            <Matches container="flv"/>
            <Matches container="asf"/>
         </Audio>
      </OnlineTranscoding>
Last edited by serviio-buddy on Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:28 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:56 pm

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

I also tried that, basically what it's doing now its transcoding it to MPEG.
It works but, are you getting a steady stream or is it stuttering?
Mine stutters a lot, It seems to do with the speed that I get on the screen.
When it fluctuates a lot then the signal starts getting choppy.
I don't see a big load on the CPU, so I wonder if my router is regualting the speed to the device.
Keep investigating...
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Post Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:06 pm

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

This fix works very good on my system with usually no stuttering and has fixed the Sony SMP-N100 rebooting problem I was encountering 90% of the time I tried playing a live stream.

Stuttering may be caused by a slow internet connection: some of the live streams I played were streaming at 4 Mbps or faster.

Also, if you have any router problems or maybe an older or slow PC used for Serviio Server, this may cause those symptoms.
Last edited by serviio-buddy on Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:12 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:46 am

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

What PC configuration do you have?
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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:08 am

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

HP PC (older 2007 model)
Windows Vista 32-bit Premium
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+ 2.40 GHz
2 GB Memory
320 GB HD
CPU Usage: 50-75% when playing live stream HDs, about 20-40% when playing SD live streams.
Internet Connection Speed Test says: 15 Mbps

There is some stuttering on good HD quality streams, however. Not sure what is causing this other than transcoding or slow network.

What is your PC configuration and internet connection speed?
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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:27 am

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

Well, I gues I was asking too much out of the old cow...:

Windows XP
Pentium 4, 2.4Ghz
1GB Ram
80GB HD
Internet 15Mbs

Thank you for the info, tomorrow I'm testing on a Quad core to see how it performs with the HD stuff.
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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:31 am

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

Your welcome. :D

Do you get stuttering on SD live streams also?

Do you have XBMC or VLC installed on the server too? (This allows me to compare the Sony SMP-N100 to the XBMC software running on the PC to check for differences.)
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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:11 am

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

SD is decent, but the image is not the best.

No I don't have XBMC installed, I believe I have VLC, I have to check, but I always have problems trying to get a stream to play on VLC?

I must be doing something wrong
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Post Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:35 am

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

I just tried some HD Live Streams that were consistently stuttering and freezing for a second or two on Sony SMP-N100.

Note: The same live stream stutters and freezes consistently on:

1. Sony SMP-N100, Sony BD / SMP profile
2. XBMC, Generic profile
3. VLC, Generic profile

This probably indicates that the stuttering/freezing on certain live streams is not just common to Sony SMP-N100, but also to 2 different PC renderers.
This may be caused by either inadequate PC hardware where Serviio is running or the actual source stream may be to blame.

As far as the streaming problem you reported with VLC, are you running version 2.0.0 ?
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Post Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:40 pm

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

Hi Serviio-buddy

Fantastic job you did on the SMP-N100, i can now see live stream without the box makes pink screen 9 out of 10 times.

Unfortunately i also got shuttering on picture and sound.

I have a 30Mbit connection and runs win7, i have tryed on two machines but the problem is the same.

Best regards
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Post Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:47 pm

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

Thanks. :mrgreen:

Yes, this fix works good on Sony SMP-N100 for most live streams, but some HD live streams do stutter and freeze intermittently and consistently.

Since the same symptoms also appear on a PC rendering the same live stream using XBMC and VLC, I don't think it has anything to do with the Sony SMP-N100.

I just tried the same live streams on a separate Asus eeePC (client only) running XBMC and it exhibits the same stuttering and freezing symptoms as the other device renderers do too!

Try running the same live stream you are having trouble with on a PC using XBMC or VLC and observe for stuttering or freezing. You'll probably find that it behaves the same way too.
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Post Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:40 pm

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

And can this XMBC thing run over the SMP-N100? :ugeek:
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Post Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:37 pm

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

Larzendk wrote:And can this XMBC thing run over the SMP-N100? :ugeek:

No, XBMC runs on a PC and is an award-winning free and open source (GPL) software media player and entertainment hub for digital media. XBMC is available for Linux, OSX, and Windows. Get it here: http://www.xbmc.org
Use XBMC to view Serviio feeds and streams on a PC or connect video output to your TV and I use it with the MCE (Media Center Edition) remote control. You can also run XBMC or VLC on the same PC that Serviio is running on and stream Serviio to the Sony SMP-N100 simultaneously.
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Post Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:00 pm

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

I've now got XBMC up and running and i have no shuttering on the HD channel (NASA HD and DR HD)

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Post Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:06 pm

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

I am streaming NASA HD live now showing robot basketball and there is minimal stuttering using the Sony SMP-N100.
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Post Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:13 pm

Re: Help wanted for SMP-N100 and live streaming

OK, what link are you using, i have tryed diffrende links some works, and some not.
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