Music tracks sorting

Hello,

I noticed the mp3 tracks are listed on alphabetical order on my device (Samsung TV) rather than in the track order. Is the ordering determined by Serviio or the client device itself?
It is possible to fix this behavior - something like what happens for TV shows - without changing the metadata to include the track number to have them ordered properly?

Thanks in advance and Regards,
Luca

[zip]

Serviio provides the track number, so it depends on the device. What is your device?

It's a Samsung tv (UE46ES5500).
Sorting for tv shows works fine (they appear as <ep. no>. Title); are they managed by the device too?

[zip]

Samsung should be ok. Which category do you use to view the album tracks?

I tried from both "Album Artist -> <letter> -> Artist -> Album" and "Artist -> <Letter> -> Album" with the same result.

It might sound stupid to you, but given the other "issue" I'm having with MP3 metadata extraction, I'm wondering: metadata tag names are unique?
I mean, could it be that iTunes uses different names/tags than those red by serviio - or maybe slightly different ones?
I'm asking because I just noticed that, other than the track number, I don't see the date, while in iTunes I can see the year along the other metadata

Thanks,
Luca

[will]

iTunes doesn't write its metadata to the files by default, instead it stores it in a db. Have a Google for forcing iTunes to write metadata to mp3 files. It basically involves selecting every track and converting the ID3 tag, which makes iTunes write all the data it has. Over half my music wasn't picked up by Serviio until I fixed it.

uhm, good to know!

Now I'm wondering why most of my mp3 looks fine in serviio...

iTunes allows me to choose different ID3 versions, from 1.0 to 2.4, any preferred pick for serviio? Or just the good old the higher the better?

Just a small update; I guess this is an issue with my tv: I checked on XBMC and it shows the track number (along with the other metadata) so I'd say the metadata are extracted properly by serviio and provided to the renderer.
Do I need to make some changes to have my Samsung TV to fetch all the datas or is it out of the scope of serviio?

Thanks,
Luca

[zip]

The file you sent had ID3 tags of multiple versions and Serviio didn't like that. I made the change yesterday, so there should be more data coming from your files, but some tags were still not visible to the library I'm using. Not sure if it's the way iTunes stores them or just your particular files.

Ok, thanks!
I don't see any issue to set ID3 tags for the same version to (all) the MP3s; is serviio using a specific version or is there a better one?

Also, is there a way to check what serviio can extract from a file?
Since iTunes & ffmpeg show the album artists and serviio doesn't, I can't rely on the first two to be sure I set details properly.
Do you have a favorite tool to check the metadata? My idea is having something I can use to confirm the issue is with the source file rather than asking to you to check

[zip]

Use ID3v23 or ID3v24 tags.

Try this: http://www.mp3tag.de/en/

Hi,

You were correct, the mp3s had missing/mixed metadata - fixed them with the suggested editor, converted all of them to v2.4 and now they are properly showing cover art, album artist, genre, etc.
I'm still unable to see the track number on my tv so that the tracks are ordered by track number rather than alphabetically. Anyhow, they're showing the track # on XBMC when browsing Serviio's library, so this info is provided by serviio for sure, I'd say

I have a Samsung 46ES7000 and i cant view my tracks in order, under a 'metadata' view. (Fine in by folder view)
i use mp3tag to manage my library and the metadata is immaculate.
All tracks have a tag for track number...and the track number is in the file name (%tracknumber%. %title%).

files are shown by %title% rather than filename and there is no tracknumber in site.

is this is issue something specific to an out of date profile for the samsung eses.....i had to make a change to the samsung c/d/e profile to get flacs to play..

I still have the same issue on my "ES" Samsung tv, while accessing it via any other player (e.g. XBMC) works - so I'd say tags are fine within serviio itself and passed to the client. I didn't played around with the profile, it might be worth doing it and confirm this is the issue

Interesting results when you use the samsung all share server.

When using the samsung software you get an additional button (rather than folder in the DLNA presentation) to view by album, artist, or folder.

If you view by folder, you get the symtoms of alphabetical listing.
if you view by album you get proper track order....
in neither case is the track number displayed on the tvs ui.

hoping the experts can advise,.....although i guess it would speed up librarys no end, to not read any music metadata and just show by folder.with the filenames ensuring the order.