Panasonic 2013 models (ST60)

I have an ST60 and using Serviio with it last few days to test.

Firstly there is no profile for this model.

Thought most files play using the 2012 profile, I have had difficulty with a couple of files.
Here are the details of the first one:

  Code:

C:\Program Files\Serviio\lib>ffmpeg.exe -i "F:\Videos\Movies\Nautanki Saala (201
3) 720p BRRip x264 AAC [HINDI] [955MB]--[CooL GuY] {{a2zRG}}\[SaMplE]Nautanki Sa
ala (2013) 720p BRRip x264 AAC [HINDI] [955MB].mkv"
ffmpeg version 1.1.1 Copyright (c) 2000-2013 the FFmpeg developers
  built on Feb  5 2013 21:59:54 with gcc 4.7.2 (GCC)
  configuration: --enable-static --disable-shared --disable-ffplay --disable-ffs
erver --enable-memalign-hack --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libass --enable-librtm
p --enable-fontconfig --enable-libfreetype --enable-zlib --extra-libs='-lrtmp -l
polarssl -lws2_32 -lwinmm -lexpat -lfreetype -lfribidi -lz' --arch=x86 --enable-
runtime-cpudetect --enable-pthreads --target-os=mingw32 --cross-prefix=i686-w64-
mingw32- --pkg-config=pkg-config
  libavutil      52. 13.100 / 52. 13.100
  libavcodec     54. 86.100 / 54. 86.100
  libavformat    54. 59.106 / 54. 59.106
  libavdevice    54.  3.102 / 54.  3.102
  libavfilter     3. 32.100 /  3. 32.100
  libswscale      2.  1.103 /  2.  1.103
  libswresample   0. 17.102 /  0. 17.102
Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'F:\Videos\Movies\Nautanki Saala (2013) 720p BRRip
 x264 AAC [HINDI] [955MB]--[CooL GuY] {{a2zRG}}\[SaMplE]Nautanki Saala (2013) 72
0p BRRip x264 AAC [HINDI] [955MB].mkv':
  Metadata:
    creation_time   : 2013-06-21 09:23:16
    TITLE           :
    ARTIST          :
    COMPOSER        :
    SYNOPSIS        :
    DATE_RELEASED   :
    GENRE           :
  Duration: 00:05:17.68, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 909 kb/s
    Stream #0:0(hin): Video: h264 (Main), yuv420p, 1280x528, SAR 1:1 DAR 80:33,
24 fps, 24 tbr, 1k tbn, 180k tbc (default)
    Metadata:
      title           : Nautanki Saala (2013) 720p BRRip x264 AAC [HINDI] [955MB
]--[CooL GuY] {{a2zRG}}
    Stream #0:1(hin): Audio: aac, 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp (default)
    Metadata:
      title           : [CooL GuY] {{a2zRG}}
At least one output file must be specified

C:\Program Files\Serviio\lib>



And here is the file information via MediaInfo

  Code:

General
Unique ID                                : 217402227005004523914761428488325815540 (0xA38E255979C8046B9C9AE9B8486DDCF4)
Complete name                            : O:\Nautanki Saala (2013) 720p BRRip x264 AAC [HINDI] [955MB]--[CooL GuY] {{a2zRG}}\Nautanki Saala (2013) 720p BRRip x264 AAC [HINDI] [955MB].mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 2
File size                                : 948 MiB
Duration                                 : 2h 4mn
Overall bit rate                         : 1 061 Kbps
Movie name                               : Nautanki Saala (2013) 720p BRRip x264 AAC [HINDI] [955MB]--[CooL GuY] {{a2zRG}}
Encoded date                             : UTC 2013-06-21 09:47:54
Writing application                      : mkvmerge v5.6.0 ('Kenya Kane') built on May 27 2012 16:44:04
Writing library                          : libebml v1.2.3 + libmatroska v1.3.0

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Main@L5.0
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 16 frames
Muxing mode                              : Header stripping
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                                 : 2h 4mn
Nominal bit rate                         : 963 Kbps
Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
Height                                   : 528 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 24.000 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.059
Title                                    : Nautanki Saala (2013) 720p BRRip x264 AAC [HINDI] [955MB]--[CooL GuY] {{a2zRG}}
Writing library                          : x264 core 112
Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=16 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=16 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=0 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=963 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language                                 : Hindi
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No


I have tried the 2011 and 2012 series along with the generic profile. I have tried Transcoding and also tried unchecking the Transcoding. Also tried downmixing the audio.
For every change, I have restarted the service on my Windows 7 PC and tried again.

With the 2012 profile, I can see that the audio is ahead of the video, but both get stuck every few seconds. I am not sure where the problem is.
With the other profiles, the file is simply not supported. Also without transcoding, the file is not supported.

Can someone tell me what changes I should make to the profile?

[DenyAll]

Hi Xman - in order of likelihood:
Your file has header compression, which is not often supported. Try removing that first using MKVToolnix: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1132. Also when using MKVToolnix add the "--clusters-in-meta-seek" option (Muxing menu, Add Command Line Options) as this will improve your ability to seek, ffw and rewind.

If that doesn't work, the other issue may be that the audio is AAC (you haven't included the audio information from MediaInfo for some reason, so I can't tell much more). This may not be supported by your TV within an MKV container. Try adding to the Panasonic Viera G/GT/DT/UT/VT (2011/2012) profile (edit profiles.xml using a text editor - once done restart your PC) :

<Matches container="matroska" vCodec="h264" aCodec="aac" />
above the existing line:
<Matches container="matroska" vCodec="h264" aCodec="flac" />

If this doesn't fix the issue remember to back out the change.

I note that the ST60 supports MKV and MP4 natively, so you may need to create a new profile (the Panasonic Viera G/GT/DT/UT/VT (2011/2012) profile remuxes some MKV's and most MP4's for example, which is unlikely to be necessary for your TV).

As this is a new TV you may want to assist the forum by detailing what protocols it supports. Can you try: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=19. Unfortunately this does not always work for Panasonic TV's, however it may do for the new model.

Thank you for taking time out to write such an elaborate reply. I really appreciate this.

Now for some comments inline.

Hi Xman - in order of likelihood:
Your file has header compression, which is not often supported. Try removing that first using MKVToolnix:

That looks like an elaborate process. I hope I don't have to do it for many videos. I will get back on this when I get home in the evening.

If that doesn't work, the other issue may be that the audio is AAC (you haven't included the audio information from MediaInfo for some reason, so I can't tell much more). This may not be supported by your TV within an MKV container.

I am going to try and attach what is supported by this TV from the Owner's manual. Unfortunately it is an image, since I cannot copy from the original PDF.

SupportedFormats1.jpg (109.52 KiB) Viewed 23257 times

SupportedFormats2.jpg (49.57 KiB) Viewed 23257 times

Based on this, it seems that AAC is supported within MKV by the TV itself. However, when I tried to play the movie (or the sample file of the movie) via USB hard disk, it did not work (got File not supported or some similar error). So, I think audio is not a problem, but I could be wrong.

Try adding to the Panasonic Viera G/GT/DT/UT/VT (2011/2012) profile (edit profiles.xml using a text editor - once done restart your PC) :

<Matches container="matroska" vCodec="h264" aCodec="aac" />
above the existing line:
<Matches container="matroska" vCodec="h264" aCodec="flac" />

If this doesn't fix the issue remember to back out the change.

Can I just restart the serviio service from the Services.msc applet? After that from the console, I stop and start the service again. I hope that is the right way.
Unfortunately after doing the restart of the service, my TV does not find the DLNA server many times. I have to turn the TV off and turn it back on (I am on wired network, still).

I note that the ST60 supports MKV and MP4 natively, so you may need to create a new profile (the Panasonic Viera G/GT/DT/UT/VT (2011/2012) profile remuxes some MKV's and most MP4's for example, which is unlikely to be necessary for your TV).

Please see the supported format graphic images that I have attached in this post and write back.

As this is a new TV you may want to assist the forum by detailing what protocols it supports. Can you try: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=19. Unfortunately this does not always work for Panasonic TV's, however it may do for the new model.

I am more than willing to contribute. I have a powerful desktop where Serviio is installed and I have a 100 Mbps LAN on which the TV is connected.
While I am completely new to DLNA and Serviio, I am eager to learn more.
I will try the process in that link and see if it works for this TV.
Else, we have to look at some other ways to find out what "protocols' are supported.

Also, where can I get a sample of different video formats for testing?
I have the following movie samples which are not playing:
1. H264-MPEG-4 AVC (avc1) + DTS Audio (dts)
2. MPEG-4 (XVID) + mpga

Also, further to that last MediaInfo output, I have another output for the sample of the same movie. I noticed it does not have any header compression related information. This sample also does NOT play properly on the TV.

  Code:

General
Unique ID                                : 226105344437886998881232436521646265972 (0xAA1A4E2B046CAD37BF9E95D122719674)
Complete name                            : O:\Nautanki Saala (2013) 720p BRRip x264 AAC [HINDI] [955MB]--[CooL GuY] {{a2zRG}}\[SaMplE]Nautanki Saala (2013) 720p BRRip x264 AAC [HINDI] [955MB].mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 4 / Version 2
File size                                : 34.5 MiB
Duration                                 : 5mn 17s
Overall bit rate                         : 910 Kbps
Movie name                               : Nautanki Saala (2013) 720p BRRip x264 AAC [HINDI] [955MB]--[CooL GuY] {{a2zRG}}
Encoded date                             : UTC 2013-06-21 09:23:16
Writing application                      : mkvmerge v6.2.0 ('Promised Land') built on Apr 28 2013 12:22:01
Writing library                          : libebml v1.3.0 + libmatroska v1.4.0

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Main@L5.0
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 16 frames
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                                 : 5mn 17s
Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
Height                                   : 528 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 24.000 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Title                                    : Nautanki Saala (2013) 720p BRRip x264 AAC [HINDI] [955MB]--[CooL GuY] {{a2zRG}}
Language                                 : Hindi
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Codec ID                                 : A_AAC
Duration                                 : 5mn 17s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : 6ms
Title                                    : [CooL GuY] {{a2zRG}}
Language                                 : Hindi
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No



[DenyAll]

Can I just restart the serviio service from the Services.msc applet? After that from the console, I stop and start the service again. I hope that is the right way.

Yes, you can start/stop from services.msc (I didn't go down that path as it confuses some ). You don't however need to follow it up with the console start/stop. However based on your new post, it looks like AAC is supported in an MKV container - so you are correct, audio may not be the problem and the mods to the profile I suggested in my post above should not be needed (you may still want to check as Panasonic manuals are not always accurate particularly in respect to DLNA, but lets leave that for now).

I have the following movie samples which are not playing:
1. H264-MPEG-4 AVC (avc1) + DTS Audio (dts)

From the manual it doesn't appear that DTS is supported in an MP4 container. This will likely need to be transcoded. Do this by editing the Panasonic Viera G/GT/DT/UT/VT (2011/2012) profile to add:

  Code:

   <Matches container="mp4" vCodec="h264" aCodec="dca" />
above the line
   <Matches container="mp4" vCodec="h264" aCodec="aac" />


2. MPEG-4 (XVID) + mpga

Can you please post a MediaInfo for this file.

I must also apologize - in your second MediaInfo sample (I then checked the first one and its the same which I missed ) I noticed the file has a h264 profile level of 5.0. This is also a prime target as being the culprit. To test if it is, in the Panasonic Viera G/GT/DT/UT/VT (2011/2012) profile remove the commenting from this code:

  Code:

<!-- Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetVCodec="mpeg2video" targetACodec="ac3" forceInheritance="true">
   <Matches container="*" vCodec="h264" profile="high" levelGreaterThan="4.1" />
   <Matches container="*" vCodec="h264" profile="main" levelGreaterThan="4.1" />
</Video -->

by removing "!-- " on the first line and the " --" on the last line. This will tell Serviio to transcode any video with a high profile. Unfortunately transcoding is the only way to fix this if the TV doesn't support higher level h264 profiles.

All of the above is still playing with the existing 2011/12 profile for testing. I think the next step will be to create a new 2013 profile (it may pay to back up your original profiles.xml file as we may come back to that). btw, download Notepad++ - it makes editing .xml files much easier as it colour codes everything.

Ok. I will try these suggestions and get back. I will also make a backup of the profile file before making these mods.

The specs sheet may be incorrect as well, like you mentioned. Else there would be no need for me to go down the DLNA route since the TV claims to support so many different formats.

BTW: Is it also true that there is a loss of quality in doing transcoding? I have a feeling that there is a loss of quality when I use DLNA compared to when I use the USB port directly on the TV.

[DenyAll]

When you transcode the video then yes, there can often be a loss of quality - especially if you are going from a high level to a lower bit rate file. Whether its discernable or not is the next question - sometimes I cant tell the difference, sometimes I can. I try and avoid transcoding video wherever possible but mainly because of the load on the CPU, particularly at high resolution, which can lead to stuttering. Remuxing has no loss of quality, and little CPU load.

Also, wrt viewtopic.php?f=13&t=10741&p=73002#p73002 and above:

Unfortunately after doing the restart of the service, my TV does not find the DLNA server many times. I have to turn the TV off and turn it back on (I am on wired network, still).

Do you have static IP addresses, particularly on the PC Serviio is on? This symptom may be due to your IP address changing when restarting?

Also, wrt viewtopic.php?f=13&t=10741&p=73002#p73002 and above:

Unfortunately after doing the restart of the service, my TV does not find the DLNA server many times. I have to turn the TV off and turn it back on (I am on wired network, still).

Do you have static IP addresses, particularly on the PC Serviio is on? This symptom may be due to your IP address changing when restarting?

No static IP's. However, I think the DHCP lease is quite long, but I will double check on that tonight. Hopefully all systems/ devices should get the same IP for a long time.

So, here is what I did so far:
1. Used MKVToolnix tool as described in the earlier post. I used that on both the movie file and the sample movie file. So at the end I have four MKV files in my folder.
2. I edited profile file and uncommented the section about level > 4.1 and also added the line about dca.
Here is the section of the profile file:

  Code:

<Profile id="viera2011a" name="Panasonic Viera G/GT/DT/UT/VT (2011/2012)" extendsProfileId="1">
      <!-- Panasonic Viera G30, GT30, DT30, UT30 With avi (2011), xx50 (2012)  With AVI Support -->
      <Detection>
         <UPnPSearch>
            <FriendlyName>(VIERA (G|D|U)T?(3|5)0?.*)|(VIERA VT50.*)</FriendlyName>
            <Manufacturer>Panasonic</Manufacturer>
         </UPnPSearch>
      </Detection>
      <ContentDirectoryMessageBuilder>org.serviio.upnp.service.contentdirectory.PacketVideoDLNAMessageBuilder</ContentDirectoryMessageBuilder>
      <MediaFormatProfiles>
         <MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/divx">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>
      </MediaFormatProfiles>
      <Transcoding>
         <!-- Transcode h264 videos with profile level > 4.1 to mpegts with ac3 audio -->
         <Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetVCodec="mpeg2video" targetACodec="ac3" forceInheritance="true">
            <Matches container="*" vCodec="h264" profile="high" levelGreaterThan="4.1" />
            <Matches container="*" vCodec="h264" profile="main" levelGreaterThan="4.1" />
         </Video>
         <!-- remux VORBIS/FLAC/LPCM in MKV/MP4 to AC3 -->
         <Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetACodec="ac3" forceInheritance="true">
             <!-- Some models support DTS natively, so the folowing line can be removed for those -->
            <Matches container="matroska" vCodec="h264" aCodec="dca" /> <!-- ST50 supports DTS, remove this line -->
            <Matches container="matroska" vCodec="h264" aCodec="flac" />
            <Matches container="matroska" vCodec="h264" aCodec="vorbis" />
            <Matches container="matroska" vCodec="h264" aCodec="truehd" />
            <Matches container="mp4" vCodec="h264" aCodec="lpcm" />
             <Matches container="mp4" vCodec="h264" aCodec="dca" />
            <Matches container="mp4" vCodec="h264" aCodec="aac" />
            <Matches container="3gp" vCodec="h264" />
         </Video>

Restarted Serviio from services applet and tried playing all the four files via DLNA.
There is no change in the way the files are handled by the TV. They get stuck, the audio is ahead of the video and the frames are displayed every 20-30 seconds.

What else should I try now?

I tried another video - this time an AVI. TV throws back an error saying "File not supported"

  Code:

General
Complete name                            : F:\Videos\Movies\Original Sin\Original Sin.avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
File size                                : 690 MiB
Duration                                 : 1h 51mn
Overall bit rate                         : 865 Kbps
Writing application                      : Nandub v0.29.1
Writing library                          : Nandub build 1790/release

Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : MPEG-4 Visual
Codec ID                                 : DIV3
Codec ID/Hint                            : DivX 3 Low
Duration                                 : 1h 51mn
Bit rate                                 : 724 Kbps
Width                                    : 640 pixels
Height                                   : 272 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 2.35:1
Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.166
Stream size                              : 577 MiB (84%)

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : MPEG Audio
Format version                           : Version 1
Format profile                           : Layer 3
Mode                                     : Joint stereo
Codec ID                                 : 55
Codec ID/Hint                            : MP3
Duration                                 : 1h 51mn
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 128 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 102 MiB (15%)
Alignment                                : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 24 ms (0.60 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration             : 480 ms
Writing library                          : LAME3.89 (beta)


I tried using DeviceSpy and I could see three entries for the ST60.

The first entry is for Standard type = MediaRenderer
The ouptut of the Invoke operation was

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http-get:*:image/jpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=JPEG_SM;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8c900000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:image/jpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=JPEG_MED;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8c900000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:image/jpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=JPEG_LRG;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8c900000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:image/jpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=JPEG_TN;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8c900000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:image/jpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=JPEG_SM_ICO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8c900000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:image/jpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=JPEG_LRG_ICO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8c900000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_PS_PAL;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_PS_PAL_XAC3;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_PS_NTSC;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_PS_NTSC_XAC3;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_SD_EU_T;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_SD_EU;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_SD_EU_ISO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_SD_EU_AC3_T;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_SD_EU_AC3_ISO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_TS_HD_50_AC3_T;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_TS_HD_50_AC3;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_TS_HD_50_AC3_ISO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_JP_T;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_SD_JP_MPEG1_L2_T;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_TS_JP_AAC_T;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_SD_NA_T;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_SD_NA;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_SD_NA_ISO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_HD_NA_T;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_HD_NA;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_HD_NA_ISO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_SD_60_AC3_T;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_TS_HD_60_AC3_X_T;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_TS_HD_60_AC3_T;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_TS_HD_60_AC3;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_TS_HD_60_AC3_ISO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_TS_HD_24_AC3_T;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_TS_HD_24_AC3;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_TS_HD_24_AC3_ISO;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_TS_MP_HD_AAC_LTP_T;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=8d100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:audio/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MP3,http-get:*:audio/L16:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:image/jpeg:PANASONIC.COM_PN=MPO_3D,http-get:*:image/jpeg:*,http-get:*:video/avi:*,http-get:*:video/x-msvideo:*,http-get:*:video/divx:*,http-get:*:video/x-matroska:*,http-get:*:video/mpeg:*,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:*,http-get:*:video/mp4:*,http-get:*:video/x-flv:*,http-get:*:video/flv:*,http-get:*:video/x-ms-wmv:*,http-get:*:video/x-ms-asf:*,http-get:*:video/3gpp:*,http-get:*:video/3gpp2:*,http-get:*:audio/mpeg:*,http-get:*:audio/mp4:*,http-get:*:audio/x-m4a:*,http-get:*:audio/x-ms-wma:*,http-get:*:audio/x-ms-asf:*,http-get:*:audio/wav:*,http-get:*:audio/wave:*,http-get:*:audio/x-wav:*,http-get:*:audio/flac:*,http-get:*:audio/x-flac:*,http-get:*:audio/aac:*,http-get:*:audio/x-aac:*,http-get:*:audio/vnd.dlna.adts:*,http-get:*:audio/L16:*

The third entry of the ST series was with Standard type= MediaServer
The Invoke option does not give anything in the Sink output.

So, from the DLNA website, I got the following certificate information.

ST60 DLNA certification REG22813870(1).pdf

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[DenyAll]

Hmmm... I would have expected some change for the mkv file. Previously it shouldn't have been transcoding, now it should be....

I think we need to take stock of where we're at (sorry, its a bit of work for you) and see what Serviio is doing via a detailed log.

Firstly, turn on detailed logging (you may want to keep library details at the INFO level though to keep the file size down - see viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1796) and then using MediaInfo to view media parameters, and using the modified profile, can you test the following:

• MKV File, level 5.0 with header stripping
• MKV File, level 5.0 without header stripping
• MKV File, level <4.2
• AVI File

Then repeat the test with Transcoding turned off. For the AVI problem, edit the profile to remove (or comment out) the <MediaFormatProfiles> section. See if that helps - once again test with and without transcoding on (this file shouldn't be transcoded...). Once done post the log here (you may have to compress it), and turn off detailed logging. Lastly, throughout all of this monitor your CPU usage and see if it max's out (this could be what is causing the freezing - just not enough grunt to transcode).

</edit> Also try all these files via the USB port....</edit>

I will do the detailed analysis shortly.
However, do note that I have a Intel Core i7 920 CPU. I have monitored the CPU utilization last week when it was transcoding a SBS 3D movie (MKV file) which did not show up on the TV. The file size was around 3.8 GB and the temp directory created a transcoded file around the same size after about 15-20 minutes.
The CPU utilization was around 20-50% mostly, never more than that.
I also have 6 GB of DDR3 RAM (it it helps in anyway, out of which around 2GB is mostly what is used).

So, like I said, it is a powerful desktop, enough to do video transcoding. BTW: What setting in Serviio should i use for maximum performance? I am currently using the 'Optimal' setting from the drop down.

Last evening, I connected my USB HDD directly to the TV (without Serviio) and tested about 50-70 movie files in various formats.
I will analyze what got played and what did not in a few days. Then I can compare what gets played and cannot 1. directly and 2. via Serviio (DLNA).

Edit: Also note that in your previous post you have mentioned about testing MKV and AVI files.

I have to say that based on my last evening's experience, the TV can directly play some AVI files and fails to play some other AVI files. The same observation for FLV files as well.
So, I am not sure what the difference is between the files with the same extension, but I will find out using MediaInfo.

Just a quick update (not related to Serviio though)
The ST60 can play the following formats when connected directly to a USB HDD.

MPEG4 (AVI/ AAC)
AVI (XVID/ AAC)
MPEG4 (AVC)
.3gp
.mp4

It cannot play
DivX1,2,3,4 or anything else.
MKV/AVC (Level 4)

[DenyAll]

The AVI/Divx problem can be fixed by using the Panasonic Viera E/S/ST/VT (2011) profile. This is exactly the same as (extends) the Panasonic Viera G/GT/DT/UT/VT (2011/2012) profile, with the exception that it now transcodes all AVI files.

Further to my last post, here are some more supported file format that the TV can play directly via USB. No Serviio was needed.

Movie 1--------

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Format                                   : BDAV
Extension                        :M2TS
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.0
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3

Movie 2
--------

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ormat                                   : Matroska
Extension                        :MKV
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.1
Muxing mode                              : Header stripping
Bit rate                                 : 12.6 Mbps


Audio #1
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : DTS
Format/Info                              : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile                           : ES
Mode                                     : 16
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Muxing mode                              : Header stripping
Codec ID                                 : A_DTS


Audio #2
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Muxing mode                              : Header stripping
Codec ID                                 : A_AC3

Notice the header stripping in this file.
This file always starts playing normally for a few minutes and then freezes after a minute or so. Then after about 5-10 seconds it resumes playback. It will freeze about 2-3 times in around 40 minutes of the movie play time. So, either it is the header stripping or the DTS audio which is causing the TV's CPU to overload.

Movie 3
--------

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Format                                   : MPEG-4
Extension                        :M2TS
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L3.0
Maximum bit rate                         : 6 934 Kbps

Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : HE-AAC / LC

Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Channel positions                        : Front: L R


Hope this helps in setting the profile for 2013 lineup (in case it is different for 2012.

Currently testing files that I have shortlisted.

Even after unchecking the "Enable transcoding" checkbox, I can see from the logs and the CPU utilization that Serviio is delivering the file with transcoding. I have restarted the service and tried again, still my CPU shoots up due to the transcoding.

Is that normal?

Did my analysis.

Alll details attached in an excel spreadsheet.

Media File Analysis.xlsx

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Edit: Transcoding happens even after unchecking the box and restarting the service via Windows.

There is a bug either with the TV or Serviio.
On a transcoded file, where 70% CPU is being utilized, if you forward the movie, and try to catch up from where you stopped viewing yesterday, chances are that the movie counter goes out of sync with the movie and the movie contents repeat over.
So, for example in a 2 hour movie, if I keep forwarding from the first few minutes, then at 30 minutes, the scene from the 4th movie got repeated. In another attempt, I tried to continue watching scene at 90 minutes, but the scene just did not come and I have to forward upto 120 miutes (till the end of the movie), but content shown was of much earlier time frame.

Tried 3-4 times and very slow forwarding. Finally managed to continue from where we left.



One more observation.

The following file - audio does not work at - there are no errors, but no sound either. Nothing wrong with my audio settings, since other movies play fine.

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General
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
File size                                : 1.45 GiB
Duration                                 : 1h 51mn
Overall bit rate                         : 1 852 Kbps
Writing application                      : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2540/release)
Writing library                          : VirtualDubMod build 2540/release

Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile                           : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP                    : 2
Format settings, QPel                    : No
Format settings, GMC                     : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix                  : Custom
Codec ID                                 : XVID
Codec ID/Hint                            : XviD
Duration                                 : 1h 51mn
Bit rate                                 : 1 400 Kbps
Width                                    : 720 pixels
Height                                   : 304 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 2.35:1
Frame rate                               : 23.976 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.267
Stream size                              : 1.09 GiB (76%)
Writing library                          : XviD 1.2.1 (UTC 2008-12-04)

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Codec ID                                 : 2000
Duration                                 : 1h 51mn
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 448 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : 500ms
Stream size                              : 358 MiB (24%)
Alignment                                : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 4680 ms (112.21 video frames)




So, can someone comment on the last few posts above?

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[DenyAll]

I'm here . Have been off on a skiing holiday for the last week, so am only now able to get back into it.

Some comments:

Even after unchecking the "Enable transcoding" checkbox, I can see from the logs and the CPU utilization that Serviio is delivering the file with transcoding.... Is that normal?

No. Are you certain you pressed Save after enabling/disabling transcoding? Instead of disabling transcoding you can also select the Generic DLNA Profile (still have to press Save) for the TV.

This makes the spreadsheet results a little questionable as your transcoded/not-transcoded results are the same.

There is a bug either with the TV or Serviio.

Some of what you describe is "normal" (rather a limitation due to inconsistent implementation of DLNA amongst TV manufacturers), some is weird.

• When a file is transcoded, Serviio constructs a temporary file. This takes time to make, so you cannot forward beyond what has yet to be created.
• When you restart Serviio (overnight) or if a new transcode job is started from the same TV then the temporary file is deleted. Hence it sometimes cannot restart the movie from where you left off;
• My understanding is that for some TV's (yes the Pana), when seeking (fwding and rewinding) in certain files Serviio needs to estimate the position in the movie the TV requests (it needs to convert a time based request to a byte position in the file... for a file that is not yet fully constructed). This can result in slow forwarding/rewinding and in erratic positioning in the file.
• "then at 30 minutes, the scene from the 4th movie got repeated." Now that is weird, never seen it jump from one movie to another?

All of the above is some of the reason why transcoding (and remuxing) is best avoided unless necessary. In your spreadsheet only your MKV above Main L4.1 and your DIVX based AVI's need to have their video transcoded, the other files seem to be catered for directly (or with audio remuxing in the case of DTS audio).

Question: In Car Toons is DTS or AC3 the first audio stream?