Panasonic 2013 models (ST60)

I'm here . Have been off on a skiing holiday for the last week, so am only now able to get back into it.

Welcome back.
Hope you had a good time and recharged your batteries.

Even after unchecking the "Enable transcoding" checkbox, I can see from the logs and the CPU utilization that Serviio is delivering the file with transcoding.... Is that normal?

No. Are you certain you pressed Save after enabling/disabling transcoding? Instead of disabling transcoding you can also select the Generic DLNA Profile (still have to press Save) for the TV.

Yes. I am certain I pressed the "Save" button and restarted the service.

[*]My understanding is that for some TV's (yes the Pana), when seeking (fwding and rewinding) in certain files Serviio needs to estimate the position in the movie the TV requests (it needs to convert a time based request to a byte position in the file... for a file that is not yet fully constructed). This can result in slow forwarding/rewinding and in erratic positioning in the file.
[*]"then at 30 minutes, the scene from the 4th movie got repeated." Now that is weird, never seen it jump from one movie to another?[/list]

I think I confused you here. There was no jumping from one movie to another. But I can understand the reason for the problem now.

All of the above is some of the reason why transcoding (and remuxing) is best avoided unless necessary. In your spreadsheet only your MKV above Main L4.1 and your DIVX based AVI's need to have their video transcoded, the other files seem to be catered for directly (or with audio remuxing in the case of DTS audio).

I can do these tests again over the next couple of days. Let me know what changes I should be making (e.g. selecting Generic DLNA profile and disabling transcoding?)
The AVI (DivX) file needs 2011 profile. So what part can I copy over to the new profile?
Should I just copy-paste the 2012 profile text and name it to 2013?

Question: In Car Toons is DTS or AC3 the first audio stream?

Movie 2
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  Code:

Format                                   : Matroska
Extension                        :MKV
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.1
Muxing mode                              : Header stripping
Bit rate                                 : 12.6 Mbps


Audio #1
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : DTS
Format/Info                              : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile                           : ES
Mode                                     : 16
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Muxing mode                              : Header stripping
Codec ID                                 : A_DTS


Audio #2
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Muxing mode                              : Header stripping
Codec ID                                 : A_AC3

[DenyAll]

Here is my first attempt at a Panasonic 2013 profile. I have given it a go based on this topic and using the 2011/12 profile as the starting point, but if @Illico is viewing this thread he may wish to run his eyes over it (he has far more experience than I at this).

Firstly delete your TV from the renderers profile list (I want to test that this profile is auto-detected), then add this to profiles.xml (probably above the 11/12 profile) and restart the Serviio service.

  Code:

<Profile id="viera2013" name="Panasonic Viera ST (2013)" extendsProfileId="1">
   <!-- Panasonic Viera ST60(2013) -->
   <Detection>
      <UPnPSearch>
         <FriendlyName>.*VIERA ST60.*</FriendlyName>
         <Manufacturer>Panasonic</Manufacturer>
      </UPnPSearch>
   </Detection>
   <ContentDirectoryMessageBuilder>org.serviio.upnp.service.contentdirectory.PacketVideoDLNAMessageBuilder</ContentDirectoryMessageBuilder>
   <MediaFormatProfiles>
      <MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/xvid">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>
   </MediaFormatProfiles>
   <Transcoding>
      <!-- Transcode h264 videos with profile level > 4.1 to mpegts with ac3 audio -->
      <Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetVCodec="mpeg2video" targetACodec="ac3" forceInheritance="true">
         <Matches container="*" vCodec="h264" profile="high" levelGreaterThan="4.1" />
         <Matches container="*" vCodec="h264" profile="main" levelGreaterThan="4.1" />
      </Video>
      <!-- remux VORBIS/FLAC/LPCM in MKV/MP4 to AC3, all DTS to AC3 -->
      <Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetACodec="ac3" forceInheritance="true">
          <Matches container="matroska" vCodec="h264" aCodec="dca" />
         <Matches container="matroska" vCodec="h264" aCodec="flac" />
         <Matches container="matroska" vCodec="h264" aCodec="vorbis" />
         <Matches container="matroska" vCodec="h264" aCodec="truehd" />
          <Matches container="mp4" vCodec="h264" aCodec="dca" />
         <Matches container="mp4" vCodec="h264" aCodec="lpcm" />
      </Video>
      <!-- Remux MPEG-TS with no transcoding -->
      <Video targetContainer="mpegts" forceInheritance="true">
         <!-- Matches container="avi" vCodec="h264" -->
         <Matches container="wtv" />
      </Video>
      <!-- unsupported codecs will be transcoded into mpeg-ts, mpeg2 video and ac3 audio -->
      <Video targetContainer="mpegts" targetVCodec="mpeg2video" targetACodec="ac3" forceInheritance="true">
         <!-- DivX -->
         <Matches container="avi" vCodec="mpeg4" vFourCC="div3,div4,div5,divx,dm4v,dx50" />
         <Matches container="avi" vCodec="msmpeg4" vFourCC="div3,div4,div5,divx,dm4v,dx50" />
         
         <Matches container="mp4" vCodec="mjpeg" />
         <Matches container="mp4" vCodec="dvvideo" />
         <Matches container="mp4" vCodec="mpeg4" />
         <Matches container="mpeg" vCodec="mpeg1video" />
         <Matches container="matroska" vCodec="mpeg4" />
         <Matches container="matroska" vCodec="vp8" />            
         <Matches container="asf" />
         <Matches container="ogg" />
         <Matches container="rm" />
      </Video>
      <!-- unsupported audio will be transcoded into lpcm audio -->
      <Audio targetContainer="lpcm" forceInheritance="true">
         <Matches container="ogg" />
         <Matches container="asf" />
         <Matches container="adts" />
         <!-- Next three lines are for Serviio 1.3 and later:
         <Matches container="wavpack" />
         <Matches container="mpc" />
                 <Matches container="ape" /  -->
      </Audio>
   </Transcoding>
   <Subtitles>
      <SoftSubs mime-type="text/srt" />
      <HardSubs>
         <RequiredFor container="mp4" />
      </HardSubs>
   </Subtitles>   
</Profile>

This profile:

• Transcodes video for any Main or High profiles greater than 4.1.
• Transcodes video for AVI's with DivX video (it allows AVI's with XVid video to be played natively which your TV seems to support. Also allows AVI's with other video types to be played natively for now - the one I'd question is with h264 - have commented that out for now allowing it to be played natively - need to test)
• Transcodes video for a whole lot of uncommon container/video combinations (these are after the blank line after the DivX bit, I have just left these the same as for the 11/12 profile)
• Remux video, but transcode audio for any MKV or MP4 with DTS audio. It appears the TV does not support DTS over DLNA from your tests to date.
• Remux video, but transcode audio for any MKV with FLAC, Vorbis, trueHD audio types as per 11/12 profile (we should test these if you have these file types).
• I have left the audio and subs sections the same as for the 11/12 profile for now

Some things to test:

• Firstly see if it the profile autodetected for your TV (I am guessing what the friendly name may be in the profile).
• test as many file types as we can (different combinations of container type, video and audio - if video is h264 note profile level), both with transcoding on and with it off (set the renderer profile to Generic DLNA).

I have also change the mime type for AVI's to video/xvid. Must admit I'm not 100% on what this does (anyone??) but I am hoping we may be able to fool the TV to thinking all AVI's are xvid even if they are divx. To test this, after all other tests edit the profile and remove the three lines starting with <!-- DivX -->, saving and restarting. See if any of your DivX AVI's now play.

Thanks.

Will test this in a day or two (max.)


Another question:

How do I ensure that transcoding is turned OFF? Is there some other way to check if has been disabled from the registry or somewhere else?

[DenyAll]

How do I ensure that transcoding is turned OFF?

Not sure why unchecking the Transcode box on the Delivery tab of Serviio Console isn't doing it for you, but setting the profile to Generic DLNA on the Status tab will. Press save for either.

You can confirm that its transcoding or not by looking at a detailed log. A simpler method (although not as certain) is to use task manager and look at task manager for a running ffmpeg process (ensure you view processes from all users) - when running look at your CPU usage (5-10% would indicate audio transcoding, > 20% likely to be video transcoding for your PC).

How do I ensure that transcoding is turned OFF?

Not sure why unchecking the Transcode box on the Delivery tab of Serviio Console isn't doing it for you, but setting the profile to Generic DLNA on the Status tab will. Press save for either.

You can confirm that its transcoding or not by looking at a detailed log. A simpler method (although not as certain) is to use task manager and look at task manager for a running ffmpeg process (ensure you view processes from all users) - when running look at your CPU usage (5-10% would indicate audio transcoding, > 20% likely to be video transcoding for your PC).

In fact the log and the CPU utilization were the two points that I checked last time when I did the testing.
But, when you click on the Save button, I am sure there is some flag being set somewhere (e.g. registry). I was hoping to double-check that and maybe modify it if needed to disable.
But, if Generic profile can do the same, then I can test with that.

So, here is what I have so far:
1. I tried the Generic DLNA profile and it does the same job as the direct USB playback on the TV. No difference what-so-ever.
2. Next I copied and pasted the 2013 profile section into my profile file and restarted Serviio.
I realized that that Serviio failed to start. Restarted the computer and tried again a couple of times, but Serviio is failing to start.
The log shows

  Code:

2013-07-23 23:32:08,716 ERROR [MediaServer] An unexpected error occured. Ending the application. Message: org.serviio.profile.ProfilesDefinitionException: Profiles XML file is not valid (according to the schema). Check the log.
java.lang.RuntimeException: org.serviio.profile.ProfilesDefinitionException: Profiles XML file is not valid (according to the schema). Check the log.
   at org.serviio.profile.ProfileManager.parseProfilesFromFile(ProfileManager.java:183)
   at org.serviio.profile.ProfileManager.loadProfiles(ProfileManager.java:156)
   at org.serviio.MediaServer.main(MediaServer.java:120)
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at com.exe4j.runtime.LauncherEngine.launch(Unknown Source)
   at com.exe4j.runtime.WinLauncher$2.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: org.serviio.profile.ProfilesDefinitionException: Profiles XML file is not valid (according to the schema). Check the log.
   at org.serviio.profile.ProfilesDefinitionParser.validateXML(ProfilesDefinitionParser.java:933)
   at org.serviio.profile.ProfilesDefinitionParser.parseDefinition(ProfilesDefinitionParser.java:148)
   at org.serviio.profile.ProfileManager.parseProfilesFromFile(ProfileManager.java:181)
   ... 8 more

I removed the 2013 profile and Serviio is working again.

Can you please test the profile on your system and get back please?

[DenyAll]

I did test it before posting so it may be something when I copied it in. Also I do remember modifying it slightly after copying into the post so maybe that stuffed it up. I'll look at it, but I am away from home for a few days so there will be a delay.

You need to copy it in between a </Profile > and a <Profile=.... lines.

Yes. I copied it there.
I will wait for you to get back.

[DenyAll]

I copied the profile from above into my profiles.xml file and it worked, so not sure what your issue is.

Copy the above into your profiles.xml and if you still have a problem, post your profiles.xml and I'll have a look at it.

Sure.
I will do that tonight.

Attaching my profile file which causes the service to fail.

profiles.xml

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[DenyAll]

Sorry, I had inadvertently included some audio types that are being supported in the next release onward. Attached is your version 1.2.1 profile. I have modified my earlier post also to reflect.

Tested the new profile.

In my render list, I get about 50 IP addresses starting from 169.x.x.x which I have started getting after I migrated to cable Internet. I am not sure how to avoid getting them every time the computer boots up.

On first attempt I could not locate the TV's IP address, but the TV was communicating with Serviio so I do not know which profile was used.
So, I cleared all the IP's and then noticed that the 2013 profile was selected - so perhaps the selection is automatic.

More importantly, DivX files are working fine with the profile, but all XVid files have stopped working.
I had to change back to 2012 profile to play Xvid files.

So, something in the profile is incorrect.

Thank you both for your work!
But I still (even with the last posted profile) have problems with my new Panasonic Blu-Ray Player BDT 335 (USA Modelname: 330).
My main concern is about .mkv files. With my Panasonic GW30 TV I can stream them excellent, but with the new Blu-Ray Player they even don't APPEAR!! I have the same folder structure und some .avi files are playing, but when I get into a .mkv folder there is simple no data inside?!
Do you have any idea what could be the problem with this - even don't see the files?
I hate this so much . I tried transcoding on and off and a large number of profiles. By the way, it automatically identifies the player as generic dlna profile.

[DenyAll]

@TheXman:

Re: 169.xxx.xxx.xxx addresses. Have a look at http://www.tech-101.com/support/index.p ... x-address/. The addresses are assigned when your PC cannot find the DHCP server (suggests on startup, Serviio is starting before your DHCP server has assigned addresses). One way to overcome this is to assign a static IP address on the PC (not in the router) - that way your PC does not have to wait for DHCP to assign the address.

I had to change back to 2012 profile to play Xvid files.

I expected that some parts of the profile won't be 100% right, so it will require some tweaking.

What are you seeing when you say they are not playing (what happens - are they being transcoded (CPU usage)?). Xvid files should be handled exactly the same way in both the 2013 and 2012 profiles, however there has been an unconfirmed report that the fourcc matching is broken in Serviio 1.2.1, so that may be the problem. You could also try removing the lines

  Code:

   <MediaFormatProfiles>
      <MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/xvid">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>
   </MediaFormatProfiles>

and see if that fixes the issue.

@Bohli_

This topic is focussed on the new Panasonic ST60 TV, and the profile has been designed (for now) based on that. You may want to start a new topic - you can reference this one if you like. That way other 335 users may be able to assist.

I note that there is new firmware for this device: http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/bd/ so you may want to start with that. When posting, please provide details of the device capabilities (see viewtopic.php?f=5&t=19), and a MediaInfo report on one of the MKV files (your device is meant to support MKV's, but not all MKV's are the same...). Try (and report in your post):

• Try using the Generic Profile. This will pass through the MKV's in native format (no transcoding);
• Try using the Panasonic 2010 Profile. This will transcode all MKV's. Ensure you press Save after changing profiles, and restart your player's Media menu to refresh it (or restart your player to be on the safe side).

I also came across this: http://www.computerbase.de/forum/showth ... ?t=1234488 which I presume is you? Did that shed any light (its in German and the translation from Google is not good)?

Thanks I will do that.
And yes I'm the guy at this topic, but there was hardly help.
I just thought, like the new 2013 TVs had new issues in playback, this could be similar to the 2013 Blu-Ray players, so I was writing here. But you are right a seperat topic would be better.

@TheXman:

Re: 169.xxx.xxx.xxx addresses. Have a look at http://www.tech-101.com/support/index.p ... x-address/. The addresses are assigned when your PC cannot find the DHCP server (suggests on startup, Serviio is starting before your DHCP server has assigned addresses). One way to overcome this is to assign a static IP address on the PC (not in the router) - that way your PC does not have to wait for DHCP to assign the address.

At the moment, my PC has to connect to two different routers (due to Internet connectivity issues). So I am keeping DHCP ON so that I can plug it into the correct router as and when needed.
Of course, I disable Serviio most of the time when it is not needed.

While I know these are autoconfiguration IP addresses, I don't understand why Serviio shows so many IP's in the render list.

Since I have just one renderer in my house, can I somehow disable this auto-detection/ auto-population? My TV has a static IP address.

What are you seeing when you say they are not playing (what happens - are they being transcoded (CPU usage)?). Xvid files should be handled exactly the same way in both the 2013 and 2012 profiles, however there has been an unconfirmed report that the fourcc matching is broken in Serviio 1.2.1, so that may be the problem. You could also try removing the lines

  Code:

   <MediaFormatProfiles>
      <MediaFormatProfile mime-type="video/xvid">AVI</MediaFormatProfile>
   </MediaFormatProfiles>

and see if that fixes the issue.

As far I can remember, there is an exclamation mark that comes in the small square icon at the left of the movie name. I believe I get some "file not supported" or "cannot play the file type of message". I am not sure. I will check again and revert back in some time.
But there is no transcoding happening. The error is instant.

I will also test the change of mime-type and see. I believe, DivX will stop working after that.

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While I know these are autoconfiguration IP addresses, I don't understand why Serviio shows so many IP's in the render list.

Serviio keeps a list of all renderer IP's even if its a dummy address and even if its only active for a short time. The next version will improve things by ignoring certain dummy addresses.

Since I have just one renderer in my house, can I somehow disable this auto-detection/ auto-population? My TV has a static IP address.

Next release will allow you to auto-disable new devices as they are detected. I think the "stop auto detection of renderers" may be a worthwhile feature request, if you want to post it to that part of the forum. The problem is it may confuse the less tech savvy user.

I will also test the change of mime-type and see. I believe, DivX will stop working after that.

Have a play with it. Try setting the mime type to "video/divx", "video/avi", "video/x-msvideo" or even "video/mp4", or removing it all together. In each case note what type of file the Panasonic thinks it is (it will see it as a DivX, or Video or something else - ps if the mp4 one works, which I doubt, try playing without transcoding).

I am back after a gap of few days.
Got a chance to do some quick testing.
In between Panasonic had come up with a firmware update, but I think it did not make any difference to the video formats supported.

Now, I copied over the profile that you had attached for 2013 series models and restarted the Serviio service and the console.

The result is that all the files are supported (except the 3D one which I did not test). And most of the files are transcoded even if the transcoding option is turned off.
See attachment.

I have not tested the MIME types since I think that test will not give us any further information.

[DenyAll]

Thanks - I wonder if I can impose on you to test with the mime type set to "video/divx". This is what I'd prefer to leave it as (ie. same as other Pana profiles), unless we get some confirmation that it makes a difference. You can also include the audio types now for the 1.3 release (they were commented out).

Reason is: after this last test I am going to start a new topic looking for users to input on a new Panasonic 2013 profile (which will use this profile as the starting point). During the beta testing of 1.3 this issue came up. One user is already testing with the Panasonic E6 (2013 LCD model) which has some minor differences.