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totototo

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Post Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:28 am

[OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

Hi,

I recently moved from old of version of Serviio to latest 1.5.1 on Yosemite.
I can't find the menu in system's menu bar that used to be the proper way to kill the server process.
Read some info in this forum that menu has been removed and this could be done through right-click on the console's dock icon...
Dock menu would not allow to kill the server in my case (only quit console and enable some library indexing).

It seems with 1.5 thinks have changed quite a bit on OSX in terms of ways server is being integrated in the system (launched at system boot, etc)
Could not find an article on this, that explains the basics, and particularly how to start/stop the server process at will through some simple UI menus.

I sporadically use Serviio on some of my machines, and definitely do not want the server process to run always in the background.

Thanks for any help.

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zip

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Post Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:21 pm

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

There are the commands to use to start/stop the server in the FAQ.

You can also disable autostart like this: http://wiki.serviio.org/doku.php?id=mac ... _autostart
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mpi

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Post Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:36 am

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

Thanks Zip for your kind reply, and all the hard work.
Actually I did remove the autostart file, but then commands to start/stop the daemon won't work!... :)

I understand current logic is great for a NAS or dedicated server Mac/PC.
However, for people willing to sporadically use Serviio on their laptop to share stuff at home/Friends'/Family places (but not at work or Public hotspot places!), it's important to easily start/stop Serviio, and not let it run in the background.
It is a hard requirement on Users to mess around with command-line.
Simple UI within console app would really make it more versatile in such common use-cases.
Any chance this would evolve soon?

Thanks for consideration.
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Post Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:57 pm

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

Ah yes, you're right re: removing the playlist and then not being able to stop / start.

Instead of removing the file, try to edit it and change this

  Code:
<key>RunAtLoad</key>
<true/>   


to this

  Code:
<key>RunAtLoad</key>
<false/>   
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Post Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:00 am

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

Hi,

Thanks for the suggestion indeed.

Should I infer from your statement that user-friendly start/stop server's process/daemon from UI is not under consideration?
I imagine there are lots of people using Serviio on laptops, moving from places to places (home, family, public hotspots, work) and sharing unknowingly personal content.

Thanks.
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Post Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:27 pm

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

The thing is that once the server is stopped, the UI cannot connect to it to control it. This is how it works on Windows from the beginning so I don't think it's such a big deal for most.
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mpi

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Post Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:10 am

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

Understood.
Then the previous menu item was a good option to quit the server (though in some cases it did not show up).
One could also choose to have the server be included in launch items and/or removed through UI in User/Group prefpane: installer could include it there by default, but then users will naturally find ways to remove it without tinkering with terminal commands.
I agree this is a Mac-centric view, but it is quite legitimate for an app on Mac.

Thanks again for all this great work on Serviio.

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Post Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:56 am

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

mpi wrote:One could also choose to have the server be included in launch items and/or removed through UI in User/Group prefpane: installer could include it there by default, but then users will naturally find ways to remove it without tinkering with terminal commands.
I agree this is a Mac-centric view, but it is quite legitimate for an app on Mac.

Oh, I didn't know this existed. Could you create a bitbucket ticket with some more information / links?
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mpi

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Post Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:32 pm

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

Hi Zip,

Done here.
Hope it may help.
Let me know.
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Post Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:37 am

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

mpi wrote:Hi Zip,

Done here.
Hope it may help.
Let me know.


It's the fifth thread that at I found with the same need.
Disable autorun on login on Mac.

Somedy have a solution?
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Post Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:41 am

Re: [OS X] Can't quit server 1.5.1

GabrielLogan wrote:
mpi wrote:Hi Zip,

Done here.
Hope it may help.
Let me know.


It's the fifth thread that at I found with the same need.
Disable autorun on login on Mac.

Somedy have a solution?

So stop posting the same question again and again. I already replied to one of them.

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